Thread: Yes, another spare wheel carrier question

I too am wondering if it would be possible to weld a stub axle to the chassis and cut out a section of the rear bumper to make this possible. It's easy enough to remove the bumper, wonder how hard it would be to do... Shame I suck at welding...

Cheers
Keithy

Yeh Keithy, That sounds like someway towards an idea.

What about a bracket setup either welded or bolted to the chassis that supports the stub axle ( to get it out toward the corner of the car ) and as you say cut out the bumper. Would there be enough strength in that I wonder?

There's a guy in Gelong who provides a basic kit that forms the basis of the whole carrier. "Rijidij" is the name, and the guy's name is Murray, he seems very helpful.

Rob

Originally Posted by Keithy P38

I too am wondering if it would be possible to weld a stub axle to the chassis and cut out a section of the rear bumper to make this possible. It's easy enough to remove the bumper, wonder how hard it would be to do... Shame I suck at welding...

Cheers
Keithy

If I understand what you are getting at, there's a practical problem: the chassis rail (both sides) is located about a hand span inside the outer extremity of the lower tailgate Which is why the commercial versions have the stub axle at the very end of the rear bumper....

EDIT: on further thought, the Moment exerted on the single chassis rail by a bracket supporting the weight of the entire frame plus spare wheel, would cause it to deform. You need to both chassis rails and a solid bumper I would have thought to support the weights involved. It's not just the static weight of the carrier and wheel but rather the significantly increased forces applying when travelling "in harm's way"

Would the chassis rail support such a bracket that far away from the fulcrum, what ,about 200 mm I guess?

How do other vehicles cope with this I wonder?

So that why the D3 and D4 bracket bolts through the bumper!

Originally Posted by Hoges

If I understand what you are getting at, there's a practical problem: the chassis rail (both sides) is located about a hand span inside the outer extremity of the lower tailgate Which is why the commercial versions have the stub axle at the very end of the rear bumper....

EDIT: on further thought, the Moment exerted on the single chassis rail by a bracket supporting the weight of the entire frame plus spare wheel, would cause it to deform. You need to both chassis rails and a solid bumper I would have thought to support the weights involved. It's not just the static weight of the carrier and wheel but rather the significantly increased forces applying when travelling "in harm's way"

Way to quick with your edit Hoges

I have one (a through bumper stub axle type swing arm) that I am pretty sure was made by Hardy Neale (original HardRange owner). It came to me a few years ago via Willem (a fellow AULRO member) down near Geelong.

I even saw photos of it fitted up on a P38 (perhaps Paul's hardrangie, pre HardRange sill stickers?) on RR.net too from memory...

Anyway, I am pretty certain the setup is still somewhere under my house, will dig it all out and post photos tomorrow.

I like the sound of that Dave. The seed has been planted.

So to make a brace that crosses both chassis rails and extend the stub out of the lower tailgate's way seems to be the best way both structurally and practically (of course). Not forgetting the need to place a set of lights on the bumper as well - perhaps LED strips?

Overtime is taking my R&R at the moment but when I do next get a decent bit of time off ill rip off my bumper and assess under-bumper clearances.

Cheers
Keithy

This sounds like a plan! I like the idea. If someone has one of the pics it would be great to have it posted.
Gary