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Thread: The P38 Rear Bar Tyre Carrier SNAFU

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    I have the rijidig kit sitting in my garage and I think I may have found a metal fabrication shop who can make the bracket for me.

    Thanks to all for lots of great ideas!

    Steve

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    I got some pics from a customer today who built a carrier for his P38 Rangie using our components, so I thought I'd share them here.
    No pics of the chassis bracket under the bumper, but he said he used a piece of 100 x 50 x 6 RHS and cut it to the shape required.
    As you can see he also welded a tab onto the latch plate to mount a gas strut.
    I think he's done a great job considering he said, "all I have is a welder and angle grinder".

    Cheers, Murray









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    Murray

    Thanks for those pics it looks great !

    My rear bar project is on hold temporarily while I deal with some ABS and EAS issues

    Steve

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    Thanks Murray,
    You were too quick for me to post these pics!!.

    SteveFarmer if you use the dimensions of the bracket I posted it will be too long and it also be too close to the inner face of the bumper, a lot of mucking around to get it right as you can't see whats going on under the bumper. One thing for sure its strong.

    Rob

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    Rob

    If you get a chance at some stage see what has been done behind the bumper. That from the outside is one of the cleanest installations I've ever seen. Well done, something to be proud of!

    Gary
    Quote Originally Posted by Robsrod 58 View Post
    Thanks Murray,
    You were too quick for me to post these pics!!.

    SteveFarmer if you use the dimensions of the bracket I posted it will be too long and it also be too close to the inner face of the bumper, a lot of mucking around to get it right as you can't see whats going on under the bumper. One thing for sure its strong.

    Rob

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    Yeah looks great. Did you get it powder coated? What made you decide RHS vs. LHS? Also the led's. I didn't bother except for outboard of the spare wheel. We're they required? What are you doing about the number plate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidsonsm View Post
    Yeah looks great. Did you get it powder coated? What made you decide RHS vs. LHS? Also the led's. I didn't bother except for outboard of the spare wheel. We're they required? What are you doing about the number plate?
    Next time I take the rear bar off I'll take a couple of pics, but believe me I'm not in any hurry to do it as it has been on and off so many times I've just about worn the bolts out!!

    6mm x 50 x 100 RHS is what I had lying around and over a length of approx 150mm it is quite strong. If you look at the diagram I posted at the beginning of this thread everything is the same except the gusseted "C" section. No its not powder coated as yet in case of more mods.

    The LED's straight off fleebay - the best looking I could find. If you look at the bumper adjacent to the LH light assy you will see 2 number plate leds with 2 rivnuts located between them for holding the Nplate when spare is fitted. I think I've covered all the legalities.

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidsonsm View Post
    .................Also the led's. I didn't bother except for outboard of the spare wheel. We're they required? ...........
    The basic rule to keep in mind, in Vic anyway, is the rear lights need to be visible from an angle of 45*, so unless your spare wheel is positioned right in the middle it's most likely you will need to fit extra lights.

    Cheers, Murray
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    Question

    I would love to have one like the RobsRod DIY but with the wheel centered and number plate holder located in the centre of the wheel.

    Rijidij, assuming no IP issues with RobsRod would you arrange production of a small batch?

    What sort of pricing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT-P38 View Post
    I would love to have one like the RobsRod DIY but with the wheel centered and number plate holder located in the centre of the wheel.

    Rijidij, assuming no IP issues with RobsRod would you arrange production of a small batch?

    What sort of pricing?
    If Murray wants to to do a run, go for it!

    But if you centre the wheel you will massively increase the moment on the bracket and will definitely require a lot of extra work under the bumper to prevent flexing, as it is you can't do this without a Haymen Reece type tow bar, which spreads the load and stiffens the chassis rails .
    As it is mine is secured by 5 bolts and there is minor flexing if I hang off the carrier....Just something to be aware of.

    I pondered the idea of N plate on wheel but getting it on there with these type of lug nuts makes it awkward as the wheel is heavy enough without trying to hang another bracket as well!

    Rob

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