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Thread: Lifted P38 on air - questions

  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidsonsm View Post
    For those that have already lifted their P38's circa 50mm, are there any implications with regards to the drive shafts and/or caster angles and/or crabbing?


    Cheers.
    Davidsonsm

    I've got the HRA 2" lift, it's been installed now for close on 3 years. No problems at all caused by the lift.

    Gary

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    Hi PBROWN I have the HRA kit installed also, however I have recalibrated each height setting via EAS Unlock so that my Access /Highway/Normal settings are at the lower end of each of their respective ranges and the Offroad is in middle of its range thereby keeping my car as low as possible most of the time except when extra clearance is required.
    I also have 33" BF KM2's and Arnott GenIII's all round.
    I have only occasional rub on fronts at full lock and some harsh potholes etc - which could be easily fixed by repositioning returns of sill panel covers.
    Do not experience driveline vibrations but do have sideways pull of rear diff at offroad height. will consider new panhard rod if this would help,
    however when in this setting am generally offroad at very slow speeds anyway, so not major issue.
    Hope this helps.

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    That's my intention too, I want a lift kit to increase off road articulation but I don't want to change the on road ride height so I'll be doing a similar recalibration of the EAS.

    When I first got the Arnott GenIII bags I adjusted the height to give another inch or so in all modes but there was a noticeable reduction in stability when cornering in 'normal' height, in fact I locked it into highway height when I got the chance and put the original EAS settins back when I got home again.

    Those Land Rover engineers really knew what they were doing with the height settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rc42 View Post
    That's my intention too, I want a lift kit to increase off road articulation but I don't want to change the on road ride height so I'll be doing a similar recalibration of the EAS.

    When I first got the Arnott GenIII bags I adjusted the height to give another inch or so in all modes but there was a noticeable reduction in stability when cornering in 'normal' height, in fact I locked it into highway height when I got the chance and put the original EAS settins back when I got home again.

    Those Land Rover engineers really knew what they were doing with the height settings.
    Same here with more articulation than lift height. Thats why my spacers are actually lower than what I posted on here. My spacers are more angled with a minor height increase, but still with the +2 inch terrafirma shocks and hopefully no bump stop extension...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidsonsm View Post
    Martin - do you have final adjusted lengths of the lower arms, front and rear? To give me an idea of the extension amount involved. I have a selection of rod ends and ball joints from midwest controls (Home - Midwest Control Products Corp.) sitting in the garage at home and wanted to check I'm in the ballpark for length.

    Cheers - Sean.
    Sean I am away at present, but can measure rear extensions later this week. As for fronts I made extensions out of flat bar 25x3mm & drilled two holes about 30mm apart to raise original lower arms by this amount as you don't need much extension on the front. hope this helps.

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    Now that all the red dust has been washed off my P38 I thought it a good time to have a play with the lift kit today. Have taken my pins in to be shortened as they are just a touch too long to fit into the spacers.

    Once I get them back (tomorrow), the kit goes in. I will then use the weekend for R&D to make sure nothing over-travels or bends where it shouldn't bend.

    Obligatory pics will be attached at such time.

    Cheers
    Keithy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithy P38 View Post
    Now that all the red dust has been washed off my P38 I thought it a good time to have a play with the lift kit today. Have taken my pins in to be shortened as they are just a touch too long to fit into the spacers.

    Once I get them back (tomorrow), the kit goes in. I will then use the weekend for R&D to make sure nothing over-travels or bends where it shouldn't bend.

    Obligatory pics will be attached at such time.

    Cheers
    Keithy
    About time one of us made further progress ha ha. I sorta got distracted elsewhere. Keen to hear how you progress because it might make me get back on track

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    Here's hoping it does!

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    I woke up today with a standard height P38. Tonight, Ladies and Gents, I go to bed with a standard height P38...

    The first hurdle was the height sensor arms. I purchased a tap and die with a plan to thread the lower sensor arms and fit a turnbuckle to have fine adjustment of the sensors and make sure it was "just right". I have a faultmate, so I can easily fine tune the heights afterwards (knowing good and well that I'm at max in standard and high in the rear as is), but I couldn't obtain a left-hand thread die, so the dream ended early today after much driving around town and many phone calls to try and get the right die.

    What I'm now going to do instead of using a turnbuckle is get a few M6 coarse pipe bushes and tap the right-hand thread on the arms and use them with double lock nuts instead, marking on the arms at the point I'd like to thread the arms in. It's a similar thing to a turnbuckle, except it won't tighten when spun one way or loosen when turned the other - it will thread one section in further as the other threads out. Not exactly what I want, but it will still do the job.

    The other issue I had was the spacer pins being too long. I made them before the spacers were finished and they were too long to physically fit into the spacers so I had them trimmed (at great expense), so still have 40mm of dislocation which ain't all that bad if they prove to work as designed. I'm not equipped as a fitter/turner household so had to outsource the pin trim job... If only the garage was bigger...

    So I still have a driving and suspension active P38 until I've got the sensor arms sorted, which has been the plan all along. If I can't do the sensors, it's not worth fitting everything else.

    Ill be honest, it did my head in today... The joys of having mates who work while I play!

    Will update tomorrow, hopefully with promising results.

    Cheers
    Keithy

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    Keith,

    Think I've got left handed m6 threaded die in the garage. Happy to post it up if it's what you need. Would have to check thread. Got it off eBay.

    Cheers. Sean.

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