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    Pretty sure that it's only once the value excluding freight exceeds A$1000, but once it does exceed the limit the GST is also calculated on the freight. So in this example it'd probably escape customs and GST if bought now, but the way the AUD is going that may not be the case much longer.

    Getting a bit off topic now sorry guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulP38a View Post
    I feel p*ssed off on behalf of Arnotts. These are obviously a direct copy of their design and IP.
    If I ever need to replace my Gen III's again (unlikely as they have a lifetime warranty) or buy another P38 and have to change the air springs, I will not buy these Chinese rip-offs.
    However, I hope they serve you well.
    I agree with your sentiments however unless manufactures can compete on price they are always going to lose sales to those who otherwise could not afford a product. You dont even have to go past this forum who run advertisements for DealExtreme to see the way the world is going. I am sure you are aware Dx are the pervayers of a multitude of "Branded" items.

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    It's cost of goods, plus freight, plus customs duty then calculate GST on that total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benji View Post
    It is a tough one, I do feel for arnotts. Arb are having similar issues with their lockers. Cheap Chinese rip offs are 600 mailed to your door and they even have the arb part number.

    Just wonsering if anyone knows wether the $1000gst limit is just the price of the goods or feight costs also.
    Freight is included in the GST calculation for the $1000 duty free limit.
    So if $900 for parts and $101 for shipping you will pay $100 GST + what ever they deem the duty on purchased goods to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benji View Post
    It is a tough one, I do feel for arnotts. Arb are having similar issues with their lockers. Cheap Chinese rip offs are 600 mailed to your door and they even have the arb part number.

    Just wonsering if anyone knows wether the $1000gst limit is just the price of the goods or feight costs also.
    Freight is included in the GST calculation for the $1000 duty free limit.
    So if $900 for parts and $101 for shipping you will pay $100 GST + what ever they deem the duty on purchased goods to be.

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    When I was importing the Gen II and III's for resale through Hard Range, I was buying several sets at a time so I always copped the import duty and GST, and then a processing fee from the shipping company.
    If I sold a set of Gen III's for less than $990 I was losing money. I did sell quite a few sets for less just to get cash back in to the business.
    In the end, I was referring people direct to Arnotts as they could get it under the $1k limit and avoid the extra $.
    I completely understand why people will go for a lesser known and cheaper product rather than the "original". I have done it myself on a range of products for personal and professional use.
    I guess this one is just close to home for me, having had close dealings with Arnotts, who are essentially another family business.

    Stickso, you are completely correct though - we all have individual experiences and motivations. We make our decisions based on bias, risk and value. Not a negative thing, it is reality.

    Again, I reiterate... I wish you well and have no malice... I have my own opinions is all

    Cheers, Paul.
    My toys, projects and write-ups at PaulP38a.com

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    A friend of mine bought some chinese Gen3 copies and they failed very quickly.

    The bladder isn't the same quality material at all. The crimp rings are not crimped with the same strength.

    That guy is running Terrafirma shocks all around like me.

    He was refounded and got some genuine Arnott.

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    My cheap gen3's arrived today - hope the quality is as good as the speed of delivery.

    If I have any issues or concerns I'll report back but to reflect Rob's report the observable quality appears quite high. Time will tell!

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    Hey Stickso,

    Have you fitted your fau Gen 111's yet?
    I havn't had time as yet to fit mine. Too busy with bathroom reno!

    Rob

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    Yep, fitted them the day after I received them. No issues with the fitment and I'm really happy with the ride. Haven't had a chance to get offroad yet but very keen to see how they go.

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