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    Intermittent not starting

    My P38 has developed a curious problem. Generally I will be able to start up and drive in the morning, but by early afternoon it will spin away, but not start. Tests from a non-landrover garage has confirmed that there is no pressure in the fuel rail. However, letting the car stand overnight, I will be able to start and drive off again, until the afternoon?????

    I have had the becm repaired (Mark at Autocode) which sorted out my mysterious dash light failure, but the intermittent fuel/ starting problem persists.

    Any ideas on what the issue may be. The fuel pump was replaced about 2 years ago.

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    In the early afternoon, is the pump running when you turn on the ignition? It should run for a few seconds when the ignition is turned.

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    Crank position sensor?
    I have recently ordered two for my cars, one car is good the other intermittent.
    Today I swapped both over so I could use my daily drive without fear of it not starting. When I receive the new ones you can have the good one off the car for a box of beer if you want it. Mine is the later type, ERR 7354

    LAND ROVER RANGE ROVER MK II 4.0 1998 TO 2002 CRANKSHAFT PULSE SENSOR CS1489 | eBay

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    Hi

    Not sure if they ship to OZ, but this is a good price

    Bosch ERR7354 Engine Rpm Sensor : Amazon.com : Automotive

    Steve

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    Thank you Wayneg. I just need to check the part number. I have a '96, and it appears that it may be slightly different. It is listed as a ADU 7342L for the '95-96 model, while the 7354 is for the '99-02 models.

    Thank you never the less for pointing me to the possible problem. I think I'll try the water trick in your other post. The symptoms also seem to occur when the car has been standing in the sun, and yesterday's 39 degrees was a perfect cause.

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    Hi

    Yes the GEMS models use a different sensor part # ERR6119

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoverHse View Post
    Thank you Wayneg. I just need to check the part number. I have a '96, and it appears that it may be slightly different. It is listed as a ADU 7342L for the '95-96 model, while the 7354 is for the '99-02 models.

    Thank you never the less for pointing me to the possible problem. I think I'll try the water trick in your other post. The symptoms also seem to occur when the car has been standing in the sun, and yesterday's 39 degrees was a perfect cause.
    Vernon, how did you go tracking down a good price on the sensor?

    Gary

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    It looks like there are 3 types of CPS.
    This website has detail of Vin numbers to hopefully help get the right sensor.

    Electrical | Range Rover P38A | British Parts UK

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    Hi

    There and you need a VIN for the GEMS by the look of it

    ERR6119 Crankshaft Rpm Sensor GEMS
    Crank Sensor V8 Auto P38 Def Ds1 - Land Rover Part ERR6119

    ADU7342L Crankshaft Speed Sensor is for GEMS engines with auto transmission pre 1999
    Crankshaft Sensor V8 Auto P38 - Land Rover Part ADU7342L

    ERR7354 Crankshaft Speed Sensor is for Thor engines My99 on
    Crank Sensor Auto Ds2 P38 - Land Rover Part ERR7354

    It looks as if the GEMS engines had an Rpm Sensor and a Speed Sensor but the Thor has only one.

    Is that correct?

    Steve

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    Hi Gary,

    Searching and searching. The problem is that there are a number of manufacturers advertising the part. I'm assuming I could trust Britpart and Bearmach, but there are quite a few others out there too like Allmakes and Intermotot to mention a few. The prices range between £20-30 for the brands and £60+ for the Landrover box. Delivery adds about another 50-60% to the cost!!

    Any recommendations on a reliable supplier - Island4x4, Craddock, LR Direct, Britcar, British Atlantic?

    I also agree totally with the part numbers provided by Steve, which differ depending on the year model.

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