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    Alternator (maybe???) bearing whine

    I'm not certain its the alternator bearing whirring but I'm pretty sure it is. Yes I only noticed today and too lazy after a long day at work to diagnose too much, so lounge diagnostics it is today.

    I cleaned my engine bay, degreased the valve covers and block. Then used CT18 to help get rid of the muddy water splatter throughout the engine bay due to off road adventures.

    But it appears the cleaning has made my alternator front bearing whine a little. Not terrible but noticeable to me.

    Is it possible that CT18 and water could have gone in through the armature and caused a bearing to whine?

    I didn't spray to much so I am surprised but not amazed. It does sound like the alternator but it could be something else near the top of drivers side of the engine.

    Is there a way to lubricate the alternator without removing it? Hoping so. Was thinking WD40 for quick check/fix seeing its safer for electrical stuff (yeh yeh I know its not great) but not sure if that'll work or where to spray. Pully side or through the armature?

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    Pop the belt off & see if the noise is still there. It's safe to run the engine for a few seconds without the belt.
    If it's not, spin each pulley & feel if one's a bit rough.
    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    Pop the belt off & see if the noise is still there. It's safe to run the engine for a few seconds without the belt.
    If it's not, spin each pulley & feel if one's a bit rough.
    Cheers.

    I'm assuming the only thing that stops you running it for longer is the water pump, so temperature yes?

    Power steering and alternator won't matter unless the battery goes flat after a few hours huh

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    I replaced a few of my pulley and changed the ac compressor clutch bearing looking for a noise. Turned out to be the small plastic idler pulley under the tensioner pulley ( not the idler pulley) . Problem taking the belt off the noise was only there under load. I did put a post on about this pulley as mine had worn thin to what I think is a dangerous state, ready to explode with no doubt messy consequences
    As a side note I just bought a new serpentine belt from Supercheap for my new car. $43 which I thought was pretty good, Repco wanted $200

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete38 View Post
    I'm assuming the only thing that stops you running it for longer is the water pump, so temperature yes?
    Yes.
    PAS is usually only noisy when it's actually operating.
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    Hi

    I agree it could be any of the bearings on the various pulleys which are involved

    There was a factory recall for the tensioner pulley on the Thor engines, I replaced mine with a Nuline EP027.

    Maybe take the belt off and spin each pulley by hand and see if it feels rough or loose in any way.

    One of my other pulleys was slightly eccentric and could be seen when the motor is running.

    Any wear or slop in any of these pulleys is going to wear out your water pump bearing faster than normal

    Steve

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    Thanks Scott, Wayne and Steve. All good points, and taken onboard. I'll start the diagnostics before the end of the weekend as I don't plan to be driving very far till then.

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    There was a TSB released about 1999 or 2000 referring to the whining noise and it was recommended the bearing in the LH idler pulley be replaced with a metal one of 80mm diameter instead of the original plastic 70mm one. A slightly longer serpentine belt (2335mm vs 2325mm for the 70mm pulley) to compensate was specified as part of a kit. Apparently the LH idler was subject to significant forces and belt speeds, hence the whining, so they specified a (steel) pulley of larger diameter (to reduce the rpm) .

    I know this because since I ceased consuming alcohol I have a much reduced social life and read a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by wayneg View Post
    As a side note I just bought a new serpentine belt from Supercheap for my new car. $43 which I thought was pretty good, Repco wanted $200
    Can you tell us the part no. Wayne?

    TIA

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsteve View Post
    Can you tell us the part no. Wayne?

    TIA

    Steve
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