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    Some good news at last.....shhh I dont want to speak too loudly in case the problem hasn't really been fixed. After removing the rocker cover to remove the PCV valve (it was stuck) I can verify that the valve was clear and clean. However after putting everything back together I did a quick once over again of the engine bay. It appears in my refitting of the bits yesterday I neglected to put one of the connectors back in. And that connector just happened to be the MAF sensor
    Once connected a quick drive around the block is providing encouraging results.

    Steve, I have never reset adaptive values since owning the car some 6 years ago. None of my tools allow for the resetting. That's a WIP. But yes after replacing the regulator I probably should.

    Gary

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    Gary

    You can reset the adaptive values by removing both the battery terminals and holding them together for about 30 sec

    It looks as if you have fixed it though, great news

    Steve

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    Am not sure there are any adaptive values to reset given that there are no Oxygen sensors to provide feedback to trim the default settings in the engine ECU fuel map.... happy to stand corrected
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    Hoges you may well be correct !

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    Have the same problem.

    Like Bluey said, there is no O2 sensors on the 96 model.
    I lent my computer the one of our Gosford members that I sold my other Rangie to.
    The donor car was running perfect at the time but when I got the computer back the engine now runs rough, rich and at about 3,000RPM to compensate for the extra fuel it is guzzling.
    There is a possibility that my friend may have altered the mapping with his new system analyser to make it suit his EMS/ECU and it may need remapping again to suit my system. The damned thing are ultra touchy.
    The only other things that can cause problems are the MAF and the Throttle position sensor. Both of these I have changed but the problem still haunts me.
    With the BECM, even a dull connection between the ECU and the inputs can cause the fault so please check all of the plugs in the ECU just in case.
    After that and if all else fails, the ECU and BECM may require remapping of the fuel mixture settings. It seems like the system is staying in COLD START position.

    Good luck Gaz,
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    Maybe I spoke a bit too soon. OK, fuel consumption on a 90k round trip with not too much traffic to contend with, is back around 17l/100k when driving conservatively, which is the really good news . Bad news is that once warmed up the idle is very low at around 550 rpm whilst in Drive and food on brake. In Neutral idle speed increases up to the anticipated ~700 rpm. Acceleration is improved but still feels like it's misfiring up until it gets up around 3000 rpm.

    Still no error codes being displayed on the FCR

    Gary

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    Time for new plugs and leads hey ;-) or could be a coil pack on its way out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithy P38 View Post
    Time for new plugs and leads hey ;-) or could be a coil pack on its way out
    Could wel be Keith!plugs were changed last year with the platinum, so theoretically should be ok. Leads, around 3 years...possibly. Coils, a definite possibility.

    Gary

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    Presuming you have re-checked that H/T leads are connected to coils and plugs securely and in correct order...just asking
    Platinum plugs should last at least 80 thousand km and three yr old H/T leads if clean, should be OK as well... need to check the coil pack for burning and tracking.

    EDIT: another thought occurred to me:

    How many km do you have on the current engine? If it is over 200K km in "original" condition, there's a strong possibility that the timing chain has stretched sufficiently to alter the valve timing and cause problems including running rich etc because the EFI pulses are out of proper sequence with valve timing... which may be more significant at low revs... mine was "sloppy as" at 140k km... I am not sure how you could physically test this without removing the front cover... in which case you might as well do the water pump if it hasn't been done already...oh and the oil pump and....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoges View Post
    Am not sure there are any adaptive values to reset given that there are no Oxygen sensors to provide feedback to trim the default settings in the engine ECU fuel map.... happy to stand corrected
    The nanocom docs seem to suggest that the MAF, temperature sensors and other things play a part in the this, not just the O2 sensors

    Certainly resetting the adaptive values cannot do any harm

    Steve

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