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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottW View Post
    I think wind-up is eliminated, since both fronts were locked and the rear turned OK while it was getting pulled onto the truck (in neutral at the time) I'll drop the front tailshaft and pull the axles to get it into the garage to check it out. Is the centre diff lock in a 98 that viscous thing I have been hearing about? Does it auto-engage? If not it could be fun and games again... Lucky I haven't sold my old car yet.
    The viscous unit usually fails to a no drive situation and wont affect the diff. Viscous coupling doesnt engage or disengage, its active all the time providing a constant 50/50 torque split front and rear. The pretence to a failing viscous is usually heavy tyre scrub and a resistance to wanting to steer, but if viscous fails you go nowhere!

    Drop the front drive shaft and then with both front wheels off the ground, try to turn them. Turning one should turn the other in the oppoite direction. If they wont budge or are rough, you have a diff centre problem in the front. Most likely pinion gears. These generally dont fail unless the diff has been running with low or really old oil and it has run too hot. Stopping the vehicle and allow it to cool down can basically fuse everything together.

    Did you have the transfer lever in neutral while you were moving it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE View Post
    The viscous unit usually fails to a no drive situation and wont affect the diff. Viscous coupling doesnt engage or disengage, its active all the time providing a constant 50/50 torque split front and rear. The pretence to a failing viscous is usually heavy tyre scrub and a resistance to wanting to steer, but if viscous fails you go nowhere!
    Pretence?

    pretence

    (US pretense)
    noun 1 an act or the action of pretending. 2 affected and ostentatious behaviour. 3 (pretence to) a claim, especially a false or ambitious one.

    More info on viscous failure, see http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/part_26.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashcrofts
    A common problem with the Range Rover BW transfer case is a "seized viscous coupling". This can easily be identified by the effect it has on cornering, the tyres will "chirp" or "scrub", as the vehicle is effectively permanently in diff lock. As a confirming check, put transfer case in "neutral", handbrake on, jack up one front wheel and try to turn it, it should turn slowly with resistance, if locked solid the viscous coupling is seized, and will need changing before any damage to the diffs or CV joints occur.
    Quote Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE View Post
    Did you have the transfer lever in neutral while you were moving it??
    There is no transfer lever on a P38A Rangie. Range change is done electrically.
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    Sounds about right. The planetary gears are fine. Spin one wheel, the other spins opposite. The pinion doesn't budge a bit, hence the locked front wheels. I pulled the diff centre out and drove the car when I moved it. It was only 30m from the street to the shed. It was taken home on a tilt tray, so no need for neutral on the transfer there. Hopefully I hear back from the diff shop tomorrow.

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    I just rung the diff shop and it's spun a bearing and wrecked the housing. It appears the gears are OK though. So I either need another housing to put my bits into with new bearings and seals, or I'll have to settle for a second hand centre from a 4x4 wreckers.

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    Does anyone know if any disco's share the same centre as a 98 Rangie? It might increase my chances of finding a cheap replacement.

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    Today I learnt something. It is possible for a 65kg weakling to lift a diff centre into place while lying in the confined area under a range rover. It was a bit of a struggle, and took a fair bit of manouvering, but in the end I got it, then once it was bolted firmly in place, I called it a day I need oil anyway, so there was no chance of finishing today. I'll have to put the wheel hubs, and front drive shaft on tomorrow. This time was way easier than the first time on the footpath.

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    Well, everything is back and running. All fluids are checked and all nipples have been greased (sorry, couldn't help myself ) I'm glad everything's back to normal. I hope it stays that way too

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    Diff centre

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottW View Post
    Well, everything is back and running. All fluids are checked and all nipples have been greased (sorry, couldn't help myself ) I'm glad everything's back to normal. I hope it stays that way too
    Mate what a saga but as a RRC owner I could'nt help with parts. Just some advise though, I use genuine gaskets on everything with a little Loctite mastergasket to help. hence no leaks on our rangie. Silicone is for lazy slack mechanics, every LR I see with a leak has that blue silicone on it?????. Genuine gaskets cost stuff all, cheaper than a diff centre

    Good luck Justin

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