Thread: LA

Originally Posted by Eevo

that is still the case.

note the difference, he is guilty without testing positive.

Witnesses still carry reasonable weight in court even without hard evidence and many witnesses are saying he did it, corroborating the circumstantial evidence.

Im going to take my normal stance on this....

we need to do it like racing was before it got all girliefied...

open class..

ya got four wheels? go for it, whaddya mean you want more rules... ok after the flag drops first car past the finishline wins....

Same for humans, basic bipedal, head at the top, 2 arms eyes and ears, pair of lungs and a single heart. cool go for it....


Restricted..

Ok for the cars, uummm 3l engine max swept volume, no more han 100psi boost and 100l fuel tanks.. ummm well make more of it later.

humans
No augmentations, biological, toxilogical, mecanical or neurological. your basic shoved out of some woman kicking and wailing into the world human.

Originally Posted by isuzurover

That is not the case - he did test positive at least once (cortisone?).

Yep,and witnesses claim the GP wrote a pre-dated script after the fact, claiming it was a cream used for saddle sores.

These blokes know they are supposed to get an exemption prior to use and know damned well what they can and cannot take.

SWMBO was in a squad for one of the Olympics ('96 ?) and the lists of what you couldn't take were huge, and notification had to be made prior to anything even remotely being suspect used, etc, etc.
She was called in for a random, out of comp test too.
It was eye opening stuff for us, we were only used to the horses being swabbed.

Now I get what LA really meant when he said, "it's not about the bike"....!!!!!

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

Im going to take my normal stance on this....

we need to do it like racing was before it got all girliefied...

open class..

ya got four wheels? go for it, whaddya mean you want more rules... ok after the flag drops first car past the finishline wins....

Same for humans, basic bipedal, head at the top, 2 arms eyes and ears, pair of lungs and a single heart. cool go for it....


Restricted..

Ok for the cars, uummm 3l engine max swept volume, no more han 100psi boost and 100l fuel tanks.. ummm well make more of it later.

humans
No augmentations, biological, toxilogical, mecanical or neurological. your basic shoved out of some woman kicking and wailing into the world human.

The only reason doping is banned is for basic health reasons, otherwise it'd be open slather.

It isn't for something altruistic like ensuring a level playing field.

Originally Posted by Scallops

Now I get what LA really meant when he said, "it's not about the bike"....!!!!!

A Scottish book store has placed that little tome in the 'Fiction' section of their shop

Originally Posted by isuzurover

That is not the case - he did test positive at least once (cortisone?).

To add to this, a prologue sample has tested positive for EPO. There are witness statements of another positive test (EPO again???).

The evidence seems "beyond reasonable doubt" to me.

Maybe the solution for future TDF is to make all the riders (and officials) sleep in one big room - what the Germans would call a "matrazenlager". Plenty of them throughout the alps...

Originally Posted by Eevo

chemistry is just a subset of physics
2% is inaccurate imho

well lucky your authority doesn't stand up to the requirements of the global pharma industry eh? ;-)

USFDA, MRHA, EDQM, ICH, TGA the list goes on of health authorities that require +/- 2% variation in results across method validation - remember we are often talking about picogram concentrations here, at the edge of detection levels...

biochemistry is a branch of physics perhaps, but it would be like looking for a daffodil flowering on a gumtree.