Groupset choices - who is a sheep around here?

**3 Sisters** · 23rd November 2009, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Scallops

Now ya talkin' !

Good stuff - using it on a recumbent or a regular bike?

Last one I had was in my Carbon DH bike, with the Rohloff centrally mounted above the BB(inboard frame)to keep the weight low and central, that bike was so far ahead of the others in design it's not funny, shame the designer was so smart he was nuts

I have a crappy MTB/Road bike with a Strumy 8 speed rear geared hub, but it's not the Sturmy of old, just a lesser quality.
I have a new Rohloff in the shed, not sure if I'll just sell it as I've not got around to using for over a year now. Sorta thing that doesn't age though.

Originally Posted by Hay Ewe

over the christmas period I am intending to change to SRAM XO grip shifters and because of the 1:1 actuation I need to get a SRAM rear derailer so goign to get an XO

I'd advise trying grip shift first if possible. It's good on a gearbox because you can shift lots of gears, but not that great/worthwhile on other bikes(I've found). If you do get it, my advice is to run nearly a full length grip, so your hand only just touches the shifter. I may have some old grip shifters in the shed, you can have em if I do, just pay postage, if they're expensive ones a bit of cash wouldn't hurt

, how many gears do you run? Why XO? I find shifters are the least worthy place to spend the coin on XO XTR as the performance/weight gain is negligable compared to other components, but if everything else is bling, then cut loose.
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Originally Posted by isuzurover

What Scallops said. No reason you cannot mix and match a group"set"For sure, no group set would have the best of every component for whatever reason you're buying, be it cost, durability, weight, or performance.
magnesium spokes.

Magnesium spokes? You sure? Not Titanium or Aluminum?

Sith · 23rd November 2009, 11:15 PM

i run DURA ACE , i find it a better set up in the hoods for my hands as I am a sprinter

**Scallops** · 24th November 2009, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Sith

i run DURA ACE , i find it a better set up in the hoods for my hands as I am a sprinter

Yes - the hoods fit my hands better too - this is really the crux of the issue - I've had Chorus, Record and DA - DA just works better for me (and I'm a pursuiter) in terms of fit - do you find you can "hang on" better with DA shifters, Sith?

**isuzurover** · 25th November 2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by 3 Sisters

Magnesium spokes? You sure? Not Titanium or Aluminum?

Actually, I think you are correct. I think they were Zircal spokes, which are an aluminium alloy, not a magnesium alloy.

Either way, only suited to race bikes and weight weenies, not technical XC or FR.

Rayngie · 26th November 2009, 07:00 AM

XT/XTR on my DH bike with Juicy 7 back, Hayes 9 front brakes ( I'm a front breaker and the Hayes pull up on a dime ), SRAM X9/ XO on my XC with Juicy 5 front and back.

Ray,

**isuzurover** · 26th November 2009, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Rayngie

XT/XTR on my DH bike with Juicy 7 back, Hayes 9 front brakes ( I'm a front breaker and the Hayes pull up on a dime ), SRAM X9/ XO on my XC with Juicy 5 front and back.

Ray,

I have Hayes Mag F+R. They are very nice...

I would love a rohloff hub one day...

**3 Sisters** · 26th November 2009, 12:11 PM

On my trail/XC/everything bike I run X0 rear, chainguide 36t front ring, single speed rear hub with custom(buchered 8speed)6 speed cassette, and Avid Elixer brakes. If you like your Hayes, never try anything else

**isuzurover** · 26th November 2009, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by 3 Sisters

If you like your Hayes, never try anything else

I have tried Avid, Magura, Shimano and Hope (not all the models of each of course). I prefer the Hayes.

**3 Sisters** · 26th November 2009, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by isuzurover

I have tried Avid, Magura, Shimano and Hope (not all the models of each of course). I prefer the Hayes.

Why? What model are they?
I do a lot of technical riding and DH, and I found the Hayes don't provide enough feel for either applications. They are good, but my Avid Elixers are far superior, or my Elixir lever Code Caliper on my old Dh sled. You can feel the front tyres traction through the lever. Hayes are very on/off. My old Shimannos were also good. Avid are not very consistent though. I'd like to try the new Shimano 4pot brakes, but don't think I'd like their new lever pivot position.
But if you're happy with the Hayes, stick with them, they're better than most people make out, and they're by far the most reliable(the Mags where anyway).

Sith · 29th November 2009, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Scallops

Yes - the hoods fit my hands better too - this is really the crux of the issue - I've had Chorus, Record and DA - DA just works better for me (and I'm a pursuiter) in terms of fit - do you find you can "hang on" better with DA shifters, Sith?

Yeah mate for sure , esp when attacking on a hill .. not that I am goat by anymeans but if i am able to get on a wheel during a breakaway and you have that split second to decide if its on or they are just testing the water , a change in hand positions to the hood is ideal fit for me

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