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    Toro Overdrive refurbishment

    Hello Everyone.

    I have a Fairey Toro OD that has been sitting in the shed, I have decided to investigate it's condition and hopefully fit it to my 2a.



    I have next to no experience with gears and cogs, but hope to learn a thing or two by leaning on the more knowledgeable folk around here.





    Turning the gears is fairly smooth with little resistance. Rocking them back and forth reveals a bit of a 'knock' within the gears.

    All I have done is pull a few a few plates off to have a look inside. A little water came out, but they seem fairly shiny and rust free.




    Can you see the small rectangular hole in the casing here in the bottom left corner? It doesnt go all the way through.





    What is the best way to gauge wear/deterioration in the gears and bearings?

    Cheers,

    Sam
    Last edited by p38arover; 7th April 2011 at 02:00 PM. Reason: Change from Fairey to Toro

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    Best idea is to disassemble it, as some of the bearings cannot be inspected without this. What you can see of the gears, should show smooth meshing faces without uneven or rough surfaces.

    The key bits in my experience are the dog that goes on the back of the gearbox mainshaft and the bit that meshes with it, the input shaft on the overdrive. These tend to wear and eventually fail, and the input shaft is expensive to replace. As a general rule, you should plan on, at a minimum, replacing all bearings and seals. A few of these are availble from general bearing supplyu houses, but most are not. All parts are available from Rovers Down South in New Orleans, and in view of the current $US rate, this might be the best source for all parts, even those you can get locally. They will also do an exchange service, which you might want to look at for the same reason.

    The drive dog is the only likely point of failure provided you keep oil up to it, but unless the bearings and gears are in first class condition, expect it to be very noisy - most of them are!

    John
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    I dont think it is a fairey overdrive, but a Toro which is much stonger.????

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    This is a link to the parts page........... Fairy Parts

    And this is a link to the manual........... Fairy manual

    Cheers, Murray
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    Yes it is a Toro.
    Imposible to get parts for.
    I have one in my Willys jeep and like it very much.
    Much stonger than a fairey OD and holds slightly more oil.

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    I have to agree, on second look at it, it is not a Fairey, probably a Toro. Parts unobtainable, but fortunately, you probably don't need any! Sorry, I did not look at the pictures - they were taking too long to load when I read it before.

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    Thanks everyone.

    I always just presumed it was a Fairey... good to hear it is a Toro.

    Do the two OD's share any parts?

    Are bearings hard to source for the Toro?

    Also, is it possible for a moderator to change the title of the thread so it suits?

    Cheers,

    Sam

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    Put it on and try it , if input shaft & dog ok (was told to pack these with grease regularly, as insuficiantly lubricated leads to wear?).
    Don't take long to fit, seem to get quicker the more you do it
    If unservicable trash it, was cheaper for me to get high ratio trans than do up a fairy when my toro crapped itself. This is stronger, quiter, more reliable & cruises better ( behind a 186 in 109). Low ratio seems just as good on hill's 'round here.

    Brett

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    All that I have is the unit pictured, so I will need to source or knock up a set of linkages for it.

    I found this (Thanks Incisor!) in an earlier thread that I can use as a reference.
    Overdrive


    I found this exploded view of a Toro as well.


    This may be a silly question, but what else am I missing to bolt it on?

    It will be replacing a PTO unit that is currently on the gearbox.

    Cheers,

    Sam

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    The bits you are likely to be missing are the drive dog (53 in above diagram) and probably unobtainable, and the operating lever and linkage (pretty easy to fabricate). Also need a gasket, but this is a standard Landrover part.
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