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Thread: 351W EFI into Classic Rangie

  1. #31
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    Awesome photo's,
    Looks like it going to be a ripper of a conversion.
    I have a question, is it better with the fords to go to a 3 speed transmission instead of a 4 speed?

    I have a 4 speed in mine (turbo 700) and I can't bragg enough on how good the first gear and 4th gear with the lock up convertor.

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    Thanks lads,
    Passenger side drop counts that one out then.
    Glad you like it tebone, 4 speed is the way to go and the electronic control has obvious benefits for fuel economy and driveabilty. I can in fact program for lock up in every gear. I think the only reason people have stuck to C4's in the past is because they were already used and therefore the parts are readily available.

  3. #33
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    FIXR7,
    Make sure the 351 has plenty power as I was a little disappointed with the chev power which I eventually slapped a blower on it. As you know it doesn't take long to get use to the power.
    Look forward to hearing about the final package.

    Regards Paul

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    To true Paul,

    We'll I know first hand how these engines go in other cars so I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with it. I first put one in an old '66 XR Falcon in the early 90's and it was just so much fun to drive with heaps of low end torque. Even with 3:1 gears and Toploader it was able to do a 14.4 dead stock. Then a switch to the GT40 intake got me flat 14's/high 13's with no other changes and that car wasn't light either.
    So I'm going to chuck it in stock then add GT40 intake and 40Yally heads and 1.7 rockers and maybe a small hyd roller cam if I want more hp.


  5. #35
    tebone Guest
    Great photo,
    Sounds like the XR is a strong car.
    Just from my experience from my 86 classic rangie they are a heavy car with all the bolt ons (bull bars etc) and are a brick trying to push all that wind. With the power also going through a transfer case it takes alot more hp/torque to get the thing going than a street car.
    My combo was 383 chev,brodix alloy heads,hyd roller etc etc..
    In the last year i installed a magna charger blower (eaton m122) running 9.5 boost. What a difference in torque FIXR in the old classic.

    Talking with Rovercare which he has been involved with gen 3 conversions he believes they lack a little torque which has been confirmed by other guys with these conversions but have great top end power. Some guys have been a little disappointed as they have to get it in the rev range.

    Hopefully the ford combo generates a lot of torque to get the classic going.

    Regards Paul

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    Cheers Paul,The XR was a great car until some asshole turned in front of me and wrote it off!

    Righto got it under there this morning by myself and made my sore back and stuffed shoulder even more so.
    The F-series mount and piece of crossmember I used as a balanced jack point which worked very well after I welded the rubber mount solid
    I started by just bolting it up in the original position just to see where the bell would end up...



    As you can see it sticks out a bit but, it's not as far forward as i expected.





    Bolted up the engine to see where we're at with clearance. Looks like it'll be through the bonnet where the T-body sits but not where the back of the plenum sits near the firewall. I think I'll set the whole lot back about 50-60mm and the HO upper will still clear....the other intakes I don't think so, unless I can find a GT40 upper which I believe is a smidge shorter than the Cobra/Explorer upper.


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    Whilst I haven't got the driveline in it's final posi yet I can see that propshaft clearance to the pan rail is only about 5-6mm which is probably a little close for comfort so, I'm thinking that as I already need to make a slightly longer shaft I may as well make a solid or at least heavy wall smaller diameter shaft.
    There may also be starter clearance issues which the shaft may possibly solve at the same time.
    Do you guy's have any idea of options available here?

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    AFAIR the old Chrysler 3 speed autos had a small diameter shaft, I don't know if solid. Probably for the same reason.

    Again AFAIR They were the first to use LT230 so maybe a bolt up.
    Regards Philip A

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    Thanks Phil,

    Probably rare as rocking horse **** though?

    Pete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIXR7 View Post
    Thanks Phil,

    Probably rare as rocking horse **** though?

    Pete.
    I ummed I ahhhhed and one went in the scrap a few weeks ago

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