Thread: Tigerz11 12,000 vs Warn High-mount on D2

High mounts are a better winch by nature of design, less complex geartrain and oil filled, far superior winch

I'd keep the warn also. Its a high quality winch that will always work when you need it, and it will be operating many many years after the other one has quit - there is a good reason for these things having a great resale value with a used and broken one being worth more than a new working Tigerz11. If the motor on it is blown, the 4.6 and 6hp replacements are easy to get and do fit straight on - a great upgrade over the 2hp. 6hp is pushing the friendship without internal upgrades. You can do all of the upgrades, but in reality.... solinoids is all that you'd bother with. The packaging as you know is the big problem with fitting the Warn high mount, but if your winch is mounted in an airbag friendly way, the hi-mount will do the same.

Comparing a Tigerz11 to a Warn hi mount is like comparing a Tata 4wd truck to a Land Rover Defender.

This is a Warn hi mount with a 6hp pulling a pretty heavy Defender.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-D_eWINMk4]Tusker on the winch - YouTube[/ame]

For non competition use,I fail to see why anyone would want to retrograde from a 1200lb to a 9000lb winch,and for all the Warn stalwarts,they are not that strong and there are lots of broken Hi mounts around.The major advantage that they have is that they have a fast line speed,and that is what is required for competition use.
For the cost factors involved in upgrading the Hi mount you could purchase another winch the same as you have,and despite what all the nay saying Warn owners try and tell people,if you keep your Low mount serviced,it will be reliable and work when required,and will have a higher load rating than the Hi mount,and will draw less current,and will restrict the air flow a lot less to the radiator,a very important factor on a lot of vehicles,especially Land Rovers.
And as far as doing a Gigglepin conversion,using the motoring analogy used previously,that would be like comparing a standard Holden Commodore to a V8 supercar that is racing at Bathurst this weekend.The only thing they have in common,is the shape.

Wayne

There are a lot of broken everytype of winches around, and thats probably because almost nobody services them in reality until they are broken.

Remember, chinese junk vs a well designed, long term, reliable and powerful winch.

Originally Posted by LowRanger

For non competition use,I fail to see why anyone would want to retrograde from a 1200lb to a 9000lb winch,and for all the Warn stalwarts,they are not that strong and there are lots of broken Hi mounts around.The major advantage that they have is that they have a fast line speed,and that is what is required for competition use.
For the cost factors involved in upgrading the Hi mount you could purchase another winch the same as you have,and despite what all the nay saying Warn owners try and tell people,if you keep your Low mount serviced,it will be reliable and work when required,and will have a higher load rating than the Hi mount,and will draw less current,and will restrict the air flow a lot less to the radiator,a very important factor on a lot of vehicles,especially Land Rovers.
And as far as doing a Gigglepin conversion,using the motoring analogy used previously,that would be like comparing a standard Holden Commodore to a V8 supercar that is racing at Bathurst this weekend.The only thing they have in common,is the shape.

Wayne

I take it your justifying your own winch? You have a cheapy?

High mounts actually pull substantially slower under load unless upgraded to 6hp

They are just far more reliable than any Chinese winch, as I said, by design, if left unserviced and unloved, there is a far greater chance of an 8274 surviving...... I say all this compared to all low mounts, just the cheaper jobs are worse again

Most cheap jobs will do the average punter, but they fail alot, under anything with large load, use a snatch block, they will pull till self destruction

But seeing as it's a choice between cheap Chinese winch and the rolls Royce of electric winch......

I just can't grasp how any sane person can think a china warn rip off is anywhere near as good or reliable as a proven warn hi mount.

My old hi mount with a 6hp motor served me for over 10 years before I sold it, for the same amount it cost me originally. It was used heavily to pull vehicles up sheer faces and over boulders. Never missed a beat and was serviced once in that whole time. I'd like to see a tigerz stand up to the same punishment and last as long.

If I have to rely on a winch to get me home one day, I'll take a proven warn thanks. Tigers belong on a great wall not a real off roader.

So here's a question. The original 2.xHP warn was rate to 8000lb. The 4HP was rated to 8000lb. The 6HP was rated to 8000lb. Where's the limiting factor here, the larger motor will draw less current for same effort yes? Or alternately same current for more effort?

The only thing thats keeping me looking at the warn is known reliability, I'll go further and harder with it. With the Tigerz I might subconsciously limit myself and avoid a situation despite the higher rating.

As for Tigerz belonging on a great wall. There's many winches I'd put below the Tigerz. In fact after using, owning and having mine apart If I was buying a winch in that price range they would be my choice despite the latest winch "test" in your favorite retailer sponsored 4WD magazine.

Thats what the winch is labelled. This is a comment from Bush65 from May 2007:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-...tml#post530965

Originally Posted by Bush65

All warn high mount winches were designated 8000 lb. But, in reasonable mechanical/electrical condition, they will out pull any 9500 lb electric winch.

I'm pretty sure they also carry more line.

Also, I'm pretty sure the only real difference between the Warn9000lb and the Warn9500lb is the motor, going from 4.6hp to 6hp, gearing etc is the same, so you would expect increases when going from the 2hp 8000lb to the 6hp.