Thread: Tow ball as a recovery point? The answer is NO !!!

Originally Posted by Greylandy

. Also, as mentioned before .. I'll cut off my balls if you break a rated 3.2T shackle before the strap breaks!!!

No, No, No, the Self Mutilation Forum is at the bottom of the home page after My Freaky Members Rides.

Originally Posted by crump

No, No, No, the Self Mutilation Forum is at the bottom of the home page after My Freaky Members Rides.

Oops sorry .. thought I was on a different website for a sec

Sounds like this thread is starting to run out of steam!...Or was it just starting to get steamy?

SneakyPete

There was a thread almost exactly the same as this on another forum (dont know the linking rules for this forum) and the general consensus for the safest way of recovering was off rated snatch points bolted to your chassis, NOT shackles and pins as they have a catastrophic(sp) failure. IE> turn themselves into missiles rather than just bend, although they have a higher failure rating...

most shakles are also rated as "lifting" so quite happily lift 3.2/4.7t etc but as soon as twisting and other non-opposing forces are put on them they WILL fail

I can tell you the strap WILL let go (stitching around eye) before the pin bends,,
snatched a 109 and trailer over a berm once--,
no,, twice
got the rear of the Disco well and truly airbourne,,

Originally Posted by shakes

There was a thread almost exactly the same as this on another forum (dont know the linking rules for this forum) and the general consensus for the safest way of recovering was off rated snatch points bolted to your chassis, NOT shackles and pins as they have a catastrophic(sp) failure. IE> turn themselves into missiles rather than just bend, although they have a higher failure rating...

most shakles are also rated as "lifting" so quite happily lift 3.2/4.7t etc but as soon as twisting and other non-opposing forces are put on them they WILL fail

Yeh but I bet It didnt mention hacking your balls off, only a Landy forum could come up with something that hardcore.

Originally Posted by shakes

most shakles are also rated as "lifting" so quite happily lift 3.2/4.7t etc but as soon as twisting and other non-opposing forces are put on them they WILL fail

You'll probably find that a shackle with a SWL of 3.2t, probably has a breaking limit of around 16t.

Even so, If I can get away with not using the snatch strap, I will!.

Originally Posted by shakes

There was a thread almost exactly the same as this on another forum (dont know the linking rules for this forum) and the general consensus for the safest way of recovering was off rated snatch points bolted to your chassis, NOT shackles and pins as they have a catastrophic(sp) failure. IE> turn themselves into missiles rather than just bend, although they have a higher failure rating...

most shakles are also rated as "lifting" so quite happily lift 3.2/4.7t etc but as soon as twisting and other non-opposing forces are put on them they WILL fail

Exactly what was said here. The thread is about the best recovery point for the rear of the vehicle and in my opinion you don't get much better than the towbar as it's bolted to chassis, just like any rated snatch point that you would go and bolt to the chassis. I think it goes a step beyond in that it performs like a fixed bridle in spreading the load between the rails.

The British Army uses jate rings as recovery points, front and rear I believe. What do you think they use to attach a strap to the recovery point baring in mind they are not open like a hook.

Sorry mate but I don't see any recovery situation break a rated shackle before the strap thread goes. Also, with proper recovery points there is no reason why snatching or even winching will put excessive twisting on a shackle.