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Thread: Aluminium bulkheads on series 1's ? didnt know that?

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    has anyone thought to ask gerry mcgovern?

    (isnt he the designer/engineer living in australia now?)

    just a thought
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    just a bit further to this, from another site


    "Rover had a known problem with the press tool that formed the series one bulkhead. Some bulkheads are fine, other show wrinkling at various points, as the formers started to pack up and not support the steel poperly. As a stop gap, Rovers went through periods of making Aluminium bulkheads by hand using folders and the like to avoid having to draw any material into deep forms.until the press toll was sorted out and then they reverted to the pressed steel bulkhead."

    thought this belonged in this thread.
    (REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110

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    its not that hard to explain how the fabricated bulkheads wound up so well distributed.

    take a deck of cards lets call the diamonds the ally bulkheads.

    with the cards in suit order deal them into 4 piles. pick up one pile and count through, then do the same with another. Add a few more deal outs and see how quickly your pile can become apparently random. now picture this

    theres 4 lines outside your pressing plant for bulkheads to be placed into for storage before going off for "finishing" before going to the assembly line forklift operator one lays out the bulk heads in the same way as you would deal the cards but the operator who picks them up to load them to take them for finishing simply picks up the stacks one line at a time and loads them.

    The same thing happens at the finishers and then again at the assembly line.

    now factor in that all the breakdowns didnt occur in rapid sucession and its easy to see why they dont come out sequentially.
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    I wonder at what point they planted the rust seed?

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    There was a thread on the aluminium skinned firewalls on the old Trans Tasman and the Series One Garage forums. IIRC Mike B suggested a number of alloy firewalls came out of a distributors warehouse in New Guinea and the thoughts were that the alloy variety were actually after market production finished replacements for the parts chain when the factory had stopped pressing 80" firewalls.





    P.S. Don't ask me to refer to them as bulkhead, Rover designated them as dash panels which can be confused with the instrument panel so I will always use the Australian terminology firewall

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    I remember the same discussion Diana but I think the Poms had fairly good evidence of them being made in the UK during a press-tool breakdown. Anyway it doesn't matter, they were about years ago and are a genuine item. Bob Webber found one still on an 80" years ago in WA,

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    Hi Charlie

    I don't doubt they were genuine but seems interesting that a bunch would be in PNG as replacement parts. (I just corrected what I meant to say in the previous post)

    BTW the images I posted came from a vehicle in Canada.

    However there was always the fact that there were two sequences of 1950 chassis numbers, based on information in the Taylor book, until someone realised that the missing vehicles that connected the two sequences were entered on the last page of the first book. So information we all accept as true can sometimes be undone by further research. The planet Pluto found that out only recently when it was down graded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    There was a thread on the aluminium skinned firewalls on the old Trans Tasman and the Series One Garage forums. IIRC Mike B suggested a number of alloy firewalls came out of a distributors warehouse in New Guinea and the thoughts were that the alloy variety were actually after market replacements for the parts chain when the factory had stopped pressing 80" firewalls.





    P.S. Don't ask me to refer to them as bulkhead, Rover designated them as dash panels which can be confused with the instrument panel so I will always use the Australian terminology firewall
    What colour is that? It looks remarkably similar to mine (resprayed by a previous owner). I could never figure out where it came from - certainly not from land rover.

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    soft centres

    I wonder (again??) if the aluminium firewalls were prototypes for the folded steel firewalls.
    Is the centre profile of the pressed firewall in the Land Rover anything like the centre of the firewalls in the P3 or P4 rover cars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manic View Post
    What colour is that? It looks remarkably similar to mine (resprayed by a previous owner). I could never figure out where it came from - certainly not from land rover.
    It's probably something like British Racing Green.

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