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  1. 26th October 2011, 07:10 AM #11
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    Changes to swivel balls

    Quote Originally Posted by Timj View Post
    The swivel balls didn't change from 1954 (start of 86") through to the end of series 3.
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    In fact, initially to accomodate the breakages that started to occur on Forward Controls because of the weight, there were changes from mid-60s. First attempt was a very small machining change to the radius of the flange corner, then later there were improved grades of steel used. I think by Series 3 LWB there were no more changes. Yes, for bonneted LRs they are interchangeable, but no way on earth would I use a 54 version on a FC. The best practice is that you can use later ones on an earlier LR, but not use early on later, because of gradually increasing weights. They do break, although I admit never seen a catasrophic failure, just hairline cracks. I explained the steel grade changes in an earlier post in the Forward control threads.
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  2. 26th October 2011, 09:43 AM #12
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    Hi fc110,

    Sorry, I have not read your posts in the forward control section. It is always interesting to find out those sorts of differences, I had thought the only difference was internal dimensions on the joint change since the part number did not change after that. It probably doesn't really effect Newhue though since he has a 1958 bonneted control that should not have the weight issues of a FC (at least if he doesn't overload it ).

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  3. 1st November 2011, 01:34 PM #13
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    I seem to recall one of the UK parts mobs were selling rebuild kits (complete with swivel balls, bearings, shims, seals, etc) for about 80GBP a while back. Worth a look, I reckon, especially at the 4wds price. Is it just me, or does Four Wheel Drives seem to be distancing itself from Series more and more recently? And from quality parts?

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  4. 1st November 2011, 07:01 PM #14
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    Had a go with the liquid metal, and for me, haven't had a great deal of success. Ordered a set of chrome swivel ends out of Paddocks.
    Also received a box of goodies from Four Wheel Drives, I will be replacing sump and side gaskets this weekend instead of putting the diff back together.

    Will pay a bit more attention to the UK shops next time, even the small things add up. A brake drum grub screw 21cAU from the UK, but $1.65AU at home
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  5. 1st November 2011, 08:28 PM #15
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    Glad you got your balls sorted out

    Yes The old dart is very competitive on parts

    See you at the meeting on Thursday

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  6. 2nd November 2011, 06:58 AM #16
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    At least it's better than balls in your pits...
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  7. 29th November 2011, 03:30 PM #17
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    Found this thread a bit late, but anyway, in the '70s when I was rebuilding the S1 I had the chrome stripped at a chrome platers (Free because they get to keep the chrome) then filled the pits with silver brazing rod, filed smooth by hand, then had them re hardchromed. (paid to have my chrome replaced)
    They are still in there now, no pits, no leaks.

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