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    The 80in gets inspected for rego! Help!

    The little truck ('52 80in)finally went over the pits today and failed as I didnt expect it to go thru first time, the two main issues are too much play in the steering, I have put all new ball joints, swivels, bearings, etc, is the steering box adjustable?if so, Is it hard to do?
    The other minor issue is the front uni joint on the front prop shaft is buggered, I have a swb series 2 one still in the box, anyone know if it will fit? Other than that they were impressed that something that looks so worn is actually mechanically pretty good! Hard work on these little beasts pays off in the end!
    Thanks for your help.
    Ps I would put up some photos but can't work out how to download images off my iPad,onto this forum?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summiitt View Post
    Ps I would put up some photos but can't work out how to download images off my iPad,onto this forum?!
    Read the sticky in General Chat on how to upload pix. The subject has been done to death on this forum so a search should bring up the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summiitt View Post
    Ps I would put up some photos but can't work out how to download images off my iPad,onto this forum?!
    An iPad will only let you load from a URL - like photobucket or something similar if you are using Safari.

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    If you download the photobucket app you should be able to copy the address on app then paste it into safari.
    I use that way on my iPhone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drifter View Post
    An iPad will only let you load from a URL - like photobucket or something similar if you are using Safari.
    Can't one save a pic to your computer from an iPad just as one does from an iPhone?

    If so, then one just uses the Manage Attachments feature below the text box to upload the pic when one creates one's post. No need to use Photobucket or anything similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summiitt View Post
    , the two main issues are too much play in the steering, I have put all new ball joints, swivels, bearings, etc, is the steering box adjustable?if so, Is it hard to do?
    The other minor issue is the front uni joint on the front prop shaft is buggered, I have a swb series 2 one still in the box, anyone know if it will fit?
    Unfortunately the box is not adjustable and the only people left in the world who repair them are in London - Steering Services.

    Some owners have had success tinning the bronze nut inside the box with solder and running-it-in on the worm, whilst the solder is still a liquid.

    When my box karks it I am going to replace it with one from a S2 or 3. In the meantime have you tried filling the box with Penrite semi-fluid grease, EP140, to take up as much slack as possible?

    For the uni-joint measure the diameter of the journals and the distance from end-to-end to see if it will fit. in any case new joints are only about $20 each so it it is no big deal to change them,

    Cheers Charlie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summiitt View Post
    The little truck ('52 80in)finally went over the pits today and failed as I didnt expect it to go thru first time, the two main issues are too much play in the steering, I have put all new ball joints, swivels, bearings, etc, is the steering box adjustable?if so, Is it hard to do?
    The other minor issue is the front uni joint on the front prop shaft is buggered, I have a swb series 2 one still in the box, anyone know if it will fit? Other than that they were impressed that something that looks so worn is actually mechanically pretty good! Hard work on these little beasts pays off in the end!
    Thanks for your help.
    Ps I would put up some photos but can't work out how to download images off my iPad,onto this forum?!
    hi ring me regards steering box on 0428732001 jim

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    As Chazza says. U-joint should fit, but they are cheap anyway. Make sure the steering play is not partly from the box mounting flexing, but I'm afraid that the steering box is probably the problem, and they are difficult to remedy except by fitting a later box (which perhaps could be regarded as a temporary measure while you get the other one repaired). There is a good reason why the box was replaced!

    While the most likely wear points are not adjustable, if there is end play on the steering column, this is adjustable. Also, end play on the rocker shaft is intended to be adjusted by selecting gasket thickness on the cover, and you may be able to remove a little free play here. If the rocker shaft has free play in its bush, the bush could be replaced, but unless the journal is pretty much unworn this will not help much. But most of the wear is probably in the nut, and other than the suggestion above, there is no alternative but new parts, which are not available. Or possibly make a new new nut and shaft, but this would involve substantial tooling and machining.

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    Hi Tim,

    Are you in the ACT or just over the border (ie ACT or NSW roadworthy) - where did you take it?? With an older landy, really the only place that might understand the quirkes is Ray Spence at CMW.

    If you have replaced all the other moving bits as others have indicated (and you) it will be the steering box. Good luck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazza View Post
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    When my box karks it I am going to replace it with one from a S2 or 3. In the meantime have you tried filling the box with Penrite semi-fluid grease, EP140, to take up as much slack as possible?

    For the uni-joint measure the diameter of the journals and the distance from end-to-end to see if it will fit. in any case new joints are only about $20 each so it it is no big deal to change them,

    Cheers Charlie
    Before you replace the box with a later version, just be aware that the column length in the 80" is shorter than the SII/SIIa etc and space in the 80" drivers position is already restricted.

    With your uni joints, 80" and SII uni joints are the same however they increased the size of the joint during SIIa, so Chazza's advice to measure is appropriate.

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