Thread: Series 1 Diesels?

Originally Posted by lro11

hard to get and rebuild kits don't exist

I once had a forum discussion with a chap in Ireland who was restoring a 2 litre diesel and I asked him how he was going with parts. He said that just about everything was available, which surprised me greatly, seeing that the magazines at the time were warning people off owning one.

Unfortunately, I can't remember any great detail now, but I think the crankshaft is unique; however; most of the other engine internals can be sourced from other Land Rover diesels,

Cheers Charlie

Originally Posted by chazza

I once had a forum discussion with a chap in Ireland who was restoring a 2 litre diesel and I asked him how he was going with parts. He said that just about everything was available, which surprised me greatly, seeing that the magazines at the time were warning people off owning one.

Unfortunately, I can't remember any great detail now, but I think the crankshaft is unique; however; most of the other engine internals can be sourced from other Land Rover diesels,

Cheers Charlie

The sleeves are almost certainly unique, and are likely to be one of the needed parts. Pistons, not too sure, but again, likely to be unique. Precombustion chambers are unique, and likely to need replacing, but the entire head is, I'm pretty certain, interchangeable with the 2.25. Things like the seals on the sleeves could be a problem as well.

But parts such as valve gear, everything in the timing case, etc are almost certainly the same as or interchangeable with other Rover engines.

John

Originally Posted by 4x4 MORE

Hi Guys I know that the 88 inch series 1 was made to fit a diesel engine..but did we get them over here?

The Diesel I mean..I know we got the 1.5 and 2 litre petrol's..but diesels?

Yes, I once owned a 2 litre Land rover diesel which I had fitted to a 4" centrifical pump for flood irrigation, I sold it on to a saw miller who then used it for years driving a Lincoln Welder.

Now I own a 88" series one that has no motor, sigh!
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Originally Posted by chazza

most of the other engine internals can be sourced from other Land Rover diesels,

Cheers Charlie

Wish it was the case. The liner is easy enough to remanufacture but the pistons are a problem I could get some made but I would have to buy moq of 500.
So if someone can help us with a supplier I have three engines that could use some new slugs.

I'm pretty sure a company called JP Pistons are happy to make one-off specials. I haven't had any dealings with them though, I've only seen them advertised in a magazine.

http://www.jp.com.au/JPPistons.html

-Martin

Originally Posted by turkeybrain

I'm pretty sure a company called JP Pistons are happy to make one-off specials. I haven't had any dealings with them though, I've only seen them advertised in a magazine.
JP Pistons Home Page -Martin

I was recommended to contact this company by a vintage car enthusiast, to replace an oversized piston in 'Freds' 300TDi engine.
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Top link to JP Pistons Martin! If they can't make them nobody can!

The parts or the ability to make them are out there somewhere in the World - it would be nice to see some running 2 litre diesels

Cheers Charlie

Found this link on the Series One Club site http://www.lrsoc.com/forum/index.php...32756#msg32756 http://www.fwthornton.co.uk/ according to Lyndon (the chap I emailed years ago about a 2 litre diesel) Thornton can supply liners and pistons. Someone else on the forum thinks that the crankshaft is dimensionally similar to the 2 1/4 litre engine. I have emailed Lyndon to see if he can aid my failing memory.

Here you are all you lucky 2L diesel owners!

Quote from Lyndon on the Series One Club forum,


When I first got my 2L diesel it had a 2.25 diesel head fitted - at least one of the coolant holes in the 2.25 head doesn't line up to those in the 2L block but it appears to have been a very common swap to keep the engine running. The 2L manifolds are completely interchangable with those from the 2.25 diesel. The 2L diesel heads are fairly difficult to find but I think you are in the right place to find a good one! The tappet assemblies remained the same right up to 200Tdi production - so should be easy to source. From memory, the parts numbers quoted for the crankshaft are the same as those for the 3 main bearing 2.25 petrol and I think the part number for the camshaft was the same as one of the later engines too. Before I'd part with cash I would check the journal dimensions first though... Given that the later 2.25 petrol and diesel engines were based on the 2L diesel, I suspect that the oil pump could be a common fitment. A good starting point to check parts commonality would be John Craddock's web site - they still have some 2L diesel engine parts and it states where there is a crossover in application. With regard to the fuel injection pump, the chap who reconditioned mine suggested that he could set it up to either 2L or 2.25 diesel spec. If that is the case, another old fashioned diesel fitter should be able to set up a later 2.25 pump to suit a 2L diesel engine.
FW Thornton in the UK make replacement pistons and liners (or did produce them)

I have just had a look at the John Craddock website and the search term "2 litre diesel" showed quite an array of parts common to the 2.25 diesel, including pre-combustion chambers; oil pump; camshaft and heaps more.

So it appears that pistons; cylinder head and liners are unique but that is about it. FW Thornton used to make liners and may still do so; pistons can be made by JP Pistons and Thornton I think; and a 2.25 cylinder head can be substituted if the head isn't available. PA Blanchard have a new 2 litre cylinder head in stock, found by Googling the part number.

If you find a 2 litre diesel restore it!

Cheers Charlie