Thread: Series 1 identification

Originally Posted by gromit

But British cars still have wings (check your parts manuals).
They also have dynamos not generators.

Colin

But I don't live in the (still) UK and when you look at the parts manuals they discuss the different terminology between the English market and the North American market. Why don't they extend that to the Australian market.

And before you start talking about tilts and bulkheads they are not called those names in the manuals either.

More than that I do call them dynamos!

Diana

Seeing that we are all intelligent adults who usually don't get involved in pointless arguments, we can also accept that terminology for various parts is interchangeable - surely?

Be it a wing, or a mudguard, or a fender, or a welch plug, or a core-plug, we all know what is meant and all we need to do, is accept that English is a wonderfully varied language.

Thank you for the interesting posts on differences between the models from everyone - I found BSF's photo very helpful,

Cheers Charlie

Ok so it is Hoods, Trunks, Fenders, Trucks, Tires and SUVs then .

The other obvious way to tell the difference between un modified 86s and 88s is the grill radiator panels - the 86 has two extra ventilation holes at the bottom. The 88 has the main large hole in the centre and the two smaller ones over the chassis rails.

Sorry Chazza, when it comes to welch plug and core plug, I don't agree. We blew a welch plug on an International M5A1 halftrack at Kapooka with an event planned the next week at RAAF Wagga, the appropriate sized welch plug was ordered and a cup type core plug supplied.

Of course it didn't fit so the simple task of replacing a plug in the block took a month instead of a week.

If people used the correct terminology we wouldn't have these issues. Its the same with bolts and set screws/set bolts. If people understood the difference things would work as they're supposed to work, particularly now we have so much online buying.

Thanks all for the advice, Yes I agree BSF's photo is worth a thousand words.

I haven't been able to get away this week to have a look - hopefully next week. Is there consensus of the vehicle's age in the pics on page 1 maybe a 54 or 55 model 86inch? I know there isn't a lot to go on other than a bolt here or rivet there.

We have a 51, 53 and a 58 Series1 and I am reasonably certain sure this is after 53 and before 58.



Erich

Erich

Get the number off the ID that will tell you everything.

To me it looks every bit an 86" making it 1954 or 1955 model, the 88" starting in 1956. The bonnet, while it overhangs the radiator support panel, it isn't fitted into the hinges, so the original 86" bonnet rather than an 88/109 bonnet

Diana

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Sorry Chazza, when it comes to welch plug and core plug, I don't agree.

Ah ha! I didn't know there was a difference.

Over here they are always called core-plugs, although seeing that there are an awful lot of immigrants from the east, that may be changing,

Cheers Charlie

Originally Posted by chazza

Ah ha! I didn't know there was a difference.

Over here they are always called core-plugs, although seeing that there are an awful lot of immigrants from the east, that may be changing,

Cheers Charlie

That's the big problem, many people use the term interchangeably, when the welch plug is actually a domed disk that fits up against a shoulder in the block. When you hit the dome the disk flattens out and expands to seal the hole in the block.

Very few engines these days still require a welch plug, mostly its the cups.