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    Chazza used to make the pipe you are after (with or without heater connection). I haven't seen him on the forum for a while but it would be worth sending him a PM.

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    Yes - there doesn't appear to be one to be had anywhere in pommy-land . I've tried several places.


    pm'd Chazza. Thanks for the heads up.


    cheers,


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Sorry for coming to this thread so late. Clayton-Dewandre were the original heaters fitted to Land Rover 80" in the UK and are the type listed in the original Rover Co Ltd workshop manual. However they were rarely imported into Australia because of the Australian content rules where The Smiths Industries type were fitted as the optional accessory because they were manufactured in Australia.



    There are a number of similar appearing round smiths heaters but be careful, many were designed to fit into Holden cars (FJ, FB, FC, EK) they have a thicker core and protrude further out the back than the ones for Land Rover. If fited to a series 1 or 2 they stick out too far from the firewall and will burn the passenger's legs.



    You will sometimes find Bosch "beehive" shaped heaters fitted to Series 1 and Series 2 Landies, but these seem to have been fitted as accessories in the 1960s.

    ....the smith/ Clayton issue is likely the Clayton matrix being built( new through Holden uk) slightly thicker , less than 5 mm thicker . Doesn't present much of an issue ...... I do recall them offering two thicknesses though, and also one supplied with rear mounting plate and the other reusing the existing one....Any one found a source for the heater to demister connection?
    Cheers mark
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    Quote Originally Posted by mfc View Post
    ....the smith/ Clayton issue is likely the Clayton matrix being built( new through Holden uk) slightly thicker , less than 5 mm thicker . Doesn't present much of an issue ...... I do recall them offering two thicknesses though, and also one supplied with rear mounting plate and the other reusing the existing one....Any one found a source for the heater to demister connection?
    Cheers mark
    I think you miss my point. The difference I was talking about is between two models of Smiths round heaters.

    The one for the Land Rover is basically flat at the back with only the supports and two coolant pipes sticking out, the other Smiths model had the motor protruding about 25mm behind the element and the element was about 50% thicker so the complete heater protrudes about 70mm further into the passenger's footwell than the one designed/used on Land Rover.

    I have also heard of people using Clayton heater replacement elements in Smiths round heaters with just a bit of fiddling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfc View Post
    ....the smith/ Clayton issue is likely the Clayton matrix being built( new through Holden uk) slightly thicker , less than 5 mm thicker . Doesn't present much of an issue ...... I do recall them offering two thicknesses though, and also one supplied with rear mounting plate and the other reusing the existing one....Any one found a source for the heater to demister connection?
    Cheers mark

    Craddock's do the junction box I think if that's what you are after GBP8.00 ish. Part 304348.


    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    I think you miss my point. The difference I was talking about is between two models of Smiths round heaters.



    The one for the Land Rover is basically flat at the back with only the supports and two coolant pipes sticking out, the other Smiths model had the motor protruding about 25mm behind the element and the element was about 50% thicker so the complete heater protrudes about 70mm further into the passenger's footwell than the one designed/used on Land Rover.



    I have also heard of people using Clayton heater replacement elements in Smiths round heaters with just a bit of fiddling.

    I get you now..... There's 2 different thickness in the Clayton heater Cores one core is thicker the other both come with or without backing plates , the one that's closest is a matter off is so close to the correct size and from memory they sell the clips as well, that's the only issue I had ,fiddled for a Minute or 3

    or without the backing plate
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    Heater

    Original smith in the shed measures 3 inch thick.... The Chaton without pulling it out is only a mill or 2 thicker (might even be that the backing plate is outa square ) or spring steel clips not as springy as they used to me....

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    Gents, so apart from if I am looking at one with the fan sticking part out the back , everything else will probably do?
    cheers,
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    If it is like the one in mine( post 6 ) also the one that lotza-Landys talks about in post 24 , it's the one with the flat back. Ie the photo I put up... That core is the one I ordered new from Holden vintage... I reused the flat back plate and fans and the spring clips., the clips were a tad short but they now come with heater core..... I'll check what model no it is later ,......http://www.holden.co.uk/displayprodu...&pCode=080.505.
    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432011266.481799.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1432011266.481799.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1432011895.284121.jpg.....second is the no on rear of original core.....I'll pop up the thicknesses of the old and new when I find a ruler( what fool decided to put battery's in micrometers)...... Code Chs.2620/1
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    Fitting was easy ( reusing the old clips was a bugger) slight change in fan but required little more than a grub screw.. ......i used the old backing plate.
    Cheers
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