Thread: Series 1 at Shannons.

Yes the door tops are from a later model, there is no genuine interior, the rear seats are fabricated, at the rear door there is evidence a standard tub may have been used and of course there is the spare wheel - on SWs there is no mount for it inside as it goes on the bonnet.

About the only way in confirming the tub is genuine SW and then the vehicle is a SW, is that tubs were not drilled to take the bolt that holds the hoop clamps for the soft tops. Now while most SWB series 1s of the era were produced as soft tops, a hard top was an option and I am not sure whether these tubs were drilled. It is assumed these went down the production line as soft tops and then hardtops fitted so series 1s with hardtops would have these holes but not the station wagons. Who knows.

Unlike overseas auction houses that do providence checks, Shannons do not provide evidence of authenticity for any of their auctions. It is just a shame that LR did not keep records of chassis numbers for the SWB SWs.

Good luck to the new owner as irrespective of what it actually is it is a nice 86.

Garry

Originally Posted by garrycol

Yes the door tops are from a later model, there is no genuine interior, the rear seats are fabricated, at the rear door there is evidence a standard tub may have been used and of course there is the spare wheel - on SWs there is no mount for it inside as it goes on the bonnet.

About the only way in confirming the tub is genuine SW and then the vehicle is a SW, is that tubs were not drilled to take the bolt that holds the hoop clamps for the soft tops. Now while most SWB series 1s of the era were produced as soft tops, a hard top was an option and I am not sure whether these tubs were drilled. It is assumed these went down the production line as soft tops and then hardtops fitted so series 1s with hardtops would have these holes but not the station wagons. Who knows.

Unlike overseas auction houses that do providence checks, Shannons do not provide evidence of authenticity for any of their auctions. It is just a shame that LR did not keep records of chassis numbers for the SWB SWs.

Good luck to the new owner as irrespective of what it actually is it is a nice 86.

Garry

My SWB (not SW) was an ex Snowy vehicle delivered with a hardtop and it has the holes for the hoop clamps, so I presume apart from SW's that all tubs had these holes.

Question Garry, you say later door tops. Is this because of the drainage holes? If so, what year did these appear.

Perry

Originally Posted by numpty

My SWB (not SW) was an ex Snowy vehicle delivered with a hardtop and it has the holes for the hoop clamps, so I presume apart from SW's that all tubs had these holes.

You presume what those in the know presume

Originally Posted by numpty

Question Garry, you say later door tops. Is this because of the drainage holes? If so, what year did these appear.

Perry

Drainage holes yes - when the change occurred I am not sure, but I assume on the change from the 86 to 88, noting that this 86 was an October 53 build so one of the earliest 86s.

Garry

The one in my sig was delivered, from the factory, with 'hard top and side windows' fitted for the extra sum of 37 pounds,10s.

'Bonnet wheel fitting' was also an optional extra,for 1 pound 30s.

There is also a wheel fitting behind the front seats,which i presume was a standard fitting.

Originally Posted by scarry

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There is also a wheel fitting behind the front seats,which i presume was a standard fitting.

Yes.

Originally Posted by garrycol

Drainage holes yes - when the change occurred I am not sure, but I assume on the change from the 86 to 88, noting that this 86 was an October 53 build so one of the earliest 86s.

My 1956 86" has the drainage holes. I remember at Cooma 11 years ago being told by some rivet counter (!) that it was correct for a 1956 but not sure when the holes were added.


Colin

Originally Posted by scarry

There is also a wheel fitting behind the front seats,which i presume was a standard fitting.

Not on a SWB Station Wagon - as can be seen in the Shannons vehicle pics it gets in the way of the front pair of rear seats. Bonnet mount was standard on the SW.

Garry