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    Question - whats this bracket for ?

    Hi all
    I can work out / understand what most things are on the new 52 80"

    but can someone shed light on this bracket on the front grill area?

    thanks !

    Nobby


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    I don't think I have ever seen something like that, but I suggest it could be a sort of socket fora board supported by the bumper, with a block on the bottom to stop it moving forward, and used either as a a seat, or perhaps as a work platform to be high enough to reach something, or used for a specific purpose such as cleaning fish.

    But I am only guessing.
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    Protecting the Chassis

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    While I am keen to keep it original and the aged 72 yr patina of the body intact
    I am keen to start to repaint and protect the chassis

    attached is a few photos - it is surface dust - not too bad.
    Ideally I would remove body and repaint it all completely
    how much work/time is it to remove or raise the body up enough?

    otherwise I will section by section - sand back with a flap disc, use rust converter/remover, acid etch undercoat and then a rust preventative paint like Killrust etc


    According to the 'LandRover Series One Club' The Knowledge - my chassis paint is Bronze Green HCC/LRC1 00428 2651 - I assume a satin finish would be best

    Any thoughts or comments greatly appreciated

    Cheers Nobby!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobbyTD5 View Post
    Hi all
    While I am keen to keep it original and the aged 72 yr patina of the body intact
    I am keen to start to repaint and protect the chassis
    I went though much the same thought pattern, even painted some areas as I worked on mine.
    After taking it to Cooma for the 60th I decided against it.

    If you're using it as a daily driver maybe but if it spends most time in the shed and only goes out on dry days it won't get any worse.

    Lifting the body/bulkhead/wings etc. sounds easy but is quite involved, then you have to bolt it back together and get the door gaps right !

    Over 12 years later the chassis on mine isn't any worse.
    1956 Series 1 with PTO welder (home made)


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    Thanks! Good advice

    Gromit
    Thanks - I would like to do that - just ignore it
    but I am based by the sea, we do get a bit of salt spray and we are allowed to drive on the beach here (I would never drive in the water!)
    it is properly garaged - sealed roller door etc

    so .. thanks worth me thinking about!

    cheers

    Nobby

    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    I went though much the same thought pattern, even painted some areas as I worked on mine.
    After taking it to Cooma for the 60th I decided against it.

    If you're using it as a daily driver maybe but if it spends most time in the shed and only goes out on dry days it won't get any worse.

    Lifting the body/bulkhead/wings etc. sounds easy but is quite involved, then you have to bolt it back together and get the door gaps right !

    Over 12 years later the chassis on mine isn't any worse.
    1956 Series 1 with PTO welder (home made)


    Colin

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    Depends how deep you want to go. I am just doing the same with mine. Based on your photos I think you may find there are some areas that are worse than first appear.

    I completely removed all body parts in a few hours. There is actually not much to it, what slows it down is stuck bolts and how much you want to preserve them (I am trying to keep as much as possible).

    With the body off it is much easier to see what you've got, clean it up, and repaint.

    Are any of the outriggers rusted through?

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    Getting the body off is easy, especially with the early Series One, gets a bit more complicated later with more electrics etc.

    However! Putting it back together is not quite as easy. The bolted body joints are invariably fitted with large washers and holes that are much bigger than the bolts, to allow for manufacturing tolerance in the panel size and shape and in the positioning of attachment points on the chassis. These can add up to substantial amounts, and when reassembling you need to ensure that slop is put in the right places, or you will find bits just don't fit! (And this can be exacerbated by chassis or panel damage in the last seventy plus years.)

    In particular, if I remember correctly (someone will pop in I hope if I am wrong) the first bit to be attached to the chassis should be the tub, and at least some of these on early ones used more or less ad hoc packing to fit the attachments to the chassis. Note and preserve these when disassembling (there may be some elsewhere, but don't assume they are bodges made during repairs - they could be factory). This is followed by the firewall or bulkhead which must be adjusted so the doors fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Getting the body off is easy, especially with the early Series One, gets a bit more complicated later with more electrics etc.

    However! Putting it back together is not quite as easy. The bolted body joints are invariably fitted with large washers and holes that are much bigger than the bolts, to allow for manufacturing tolerance in the panel size and shape and in the positioning of attachment points on the chassis. These can add up to substantial amounts, and when reassembling you need to ensure that slop is put in the right places, or you will find bits just don't fit! (And this can be exacerbated by chassis or panel damage in the last seventy plus years.)

    In particular, if I remember correctly (someone will pop in I hope if I am wrong) the first bit to be attached to the chassis should be the tub, and at least some of these on early ones used more or less ad hoc packing to fit the attachments to the chassis. Note and preserve these when disassembling (there may be some elsewhere, but don't assume they are bodges made during repairs - they could be factory). This is followed by the firewall or bulkhead which must be adjusted so the doors fit.
    John, you speak the truth. The tub is fixed to the chassis with next to no adjustment, so goes on first. Everything else comes afterwards, with adjustments to "try" to make everything line up....

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    So I might start with taking off the Tub...

    Dear all
    The Chassis seems alright looking from underneath - paint and surface rust but no deep rust oo perforations - I need to have a really good crawl around.
    Sounds like taking off the Tub is fairly easy (noting/preserving the packing etc)and will give me more info on the overall chassis condition.
    might start there!
    Thanks for the guidance

    Quote Originally Posted by cjc_td5 View Post
    John, you speak the truth. The tub is fixed to the chassis with next to no adjustment, so goes on first. Everything else comes afterwards, with adjustments to "try" to make everything line up....

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    Sounds like a good idea. Actually, you can access virtually all the chassis if you remove the tub, seat box, floor and transmission tunnel, and front mudguards, leaving the firewall, which is probably the most difficult and critical in adjustment. And the vehicle is still sort of driveable, unless you remove the radiator support and radiator as well. Note that the adjustment of the firewall includes the steering column and the bracket that holds the other side, so if you disturb these, note carefully where bits were adjusted.
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