Thread: g'day all!

Hi there

I am fairly sure with the numbers from the engine etc its a 1954 86" (currently away at work).

As for the ID plate on the firewall it had the old cut and shut to replace the rear welsh plug - and the plate is missing.

I dont know of alot this color but theres is a few around - like a lot of Land rover people we are all still learning is there some way of identifying what the color is through series no: - chassis no:'s etc.

All the best

Wayne.

Originally Posted by lyallthecrocodile

hello everyone. im new to the site. have just purchased an 86inch 1955?... ... original colours that series one came in? a ...

Welcome Lyle, however I think you arrived here before me.

The 86 and 107 models were the first to have a choice of colour although in this country they were mostly bronze green for the shorty and grey for the long ones. Although that said many 107" were bronze green.

The main colours were the

• bronze green
  
• sand

• grey

• royal blue (sorry this image is not very true of the original colour but is original)

• tan (like Wayne's)
  
• Red for the fire engines.

Hope this helps
Diana

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

The main colours were the

1. bronze green
2. sand

1. grey

1. royal blue

List=5][*]tan [*]Red for the fire engines.[/list]

Hope this helps
Diana

Diana - a couple of questions (if you know) -
1. Is this a complete list?
2. Were all colours used on Australian assembled ones, or did some colours only appear on fully imported ones, presumably special bodies such as the 107 station wagon and the fire engines?

John

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Diana - a couple of questions (if you know) -
1. Is this a complete list?
2. Were all colours used on Australian assembled ones

John

Like lots of these sorts of things no one has all the facts.
It does seem that the Australian Pressed Metal factory only produced vehicles in 2 colours during the series 1's.
Those being bronze green and the grey.

It is interesting to note that Annand and Thompson (A&T) in Brisbane continued to import "export model" vehicles from the UK instead of getting the Sydney based Land Rover production. It is therefore likely that many of the odd colours came in through Annand and Thompson's. A&T's also imported vehicles with colour = "none" recorded in the Solihull's dispatch books. Presumably these vehicles were painted in Brisbane, like my 1951 which was painted in RACQ fleet colours.

From the very outset A&T's were a little unusual as their vehicles had the noticeable Land-Rover name painted on the front RH mudguard and rear tailgate. Queensland not requiring front vehicle number plates during the Series 1.

Even in the series 2, A&T's were unusual as they did not import the vehicles with hard tops. If you wanted a top you got an Athol Hedges Pty Ltd "Brisbane" hardtop. You will remember these tops, they had a flat roof top with a radius curve on all 4 sides. The tailgate top was the same height as the side panels and they had the small side windows at the rear.

Regarding other colours from the UK factory, the RAF had their vehicles supplied in their own RAF Blue and you do see vehicles with colours similar to the "Cockpit green" sage colour of the 1948 production.

What I find fascinating is that many of the Wattyl Paints colorbond colours are quite similar to the early Land Rover colours, particularly the sage.

Diana

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

John

Like lots of these sorts of things no one has all the facts.
It does seem that the Australian Pressed Metal factory only produced vehicles in 2 colours during the series 1's.
Those being bronze green and the grey.

It is interesting to note that Annand and Thompson (A&T) in Brisbane continued to import "export model" vehicles from the UK instead of getting the Sydney based Land Rover production. It is therefore likely that many of the odd colours came in through Annand and Thompson's. A&T's also imported vehicles with colour = "none" recorded in the Solihull's dispatch books. Presumably these vehicles were painted in Brisbane, like my 1951 which was painted in RACQ fleet colours.

From the very outset A&T's were a little unusual as their vehicles had the noticeable Land-Rover name painted on the front RH mudguard and rear tailgate. Queensland not requiring front vehicle number plates during the Series 1.

Even in the series 2, A&T's were unusual as they did not import the vehicles with hard tops. If you wanted a top you got an Athol Hedges Pty Ltd "Brisbane" hardtop. You will remember these tops, they had a flat roof top with a radius curve on all 4 sides. The tailgate top was the same height as the side panels and they had the small side windows at the rear.

Regarding other colours from the UK factory, the RAF had their vehicles supplied in their own RAF Blue and you do see vehicles with colours similar to the "Cockpit green" sage colour of the 1948 production.

What I find fascinating is that many of the Wattyl Paints colorbond colours are quite similar to the early Land Rover colours, particularly the sage.

Diana

Thanks, that confirms what I suspected, although I did not know A&T were importing their own. I certainly remember the "Brisbane" hardtop - the point you don't mention is that they were steel not aluminium.

You may be able to comment on the Series 1 88 I owned - it was NOT any of the other colours I have seen, it was a dark khaki colour, which appeared to be the original colour. I was the second owner, and it was ex-Snowy Mountains Authority. My guess is that it was a special order that they got painted that way for some reason. My memory is that it had the PMC plate indicating local assembly, but I could easily be confusing it with the series 2 I replaced it with 44 years ago (also ex-SMA).

John

G'day Folks

The Black panel on the Right Hand Front Guard (wing) was for the Silver English Rego(Alimimium) numbers that were fixed (screwed???) to that panel and stayed for the life of the car, they were bought individually and fixed on.

Annand & Thompson P/L at Breakfast Creek Rd Newstead Brisbane, Ph 5 3311
Distrubutors for Qld and Northern Rivers NSW. Rover, Land-Rover, and Volkswagen

service manager in the 60's was George Heirdsfield


"The New Series 11 Land-Rover* for Immediate Delivery from $(pound) 405 deposit, sales tax where applicable

still have some of their service bullitens from 63/66


cheers

Originally Posted by UncleHo

G'day Folks

The Black panel on the Right Hand Front Guard (wing) was for the Silver English Rego(Alimimium) numbers that were fixed (screwed???) to that panel and stayed for the life of the car, they were bought individually and fixed on.
.........

That is what I thought - and it seems to me that means it is a home market one - in other words it was imported either second hand or not through regular channels. The Annand and Thompson ones presumably were Export models (as above), which would not have had the black panel - or would they?

John

Originally Posted by UncleHo

G'day Folks ...
... Annand & Thompson P/L at Breakfast Creek Rd Newstead Brisbane, Ph 5 3311 Distrubutors for Qld and Northern Rivers NSW. Rover, Land-Rover, and Volkswagen

service manager in the 60's was George Heirdsfield ...

... cheers

Also Leyland P76 dealers - or at least they were in 1974 when I lived at Hamilton.

It's a pity George H didn't keep the record books like Arthur Garthon did the Grenville Motors books.

From the RACQ archives The cost of the Land Rover in 1949 was £775, plus sales tax £58 - a total of £833. - They bought 3 and another 3 early in 1950.

Diana