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    Rear Brake Lines

    Hi All,
    Restoring a 61 Series 2 LWB.
    Can somebody please post a photo of how the rear brake lines should be installed?
    A friend installed mine - and they look wrong (they don't go behind the protection plates off the leaf springs).
    If somebody could post a photo - looking from the rear of the car, at the rear diff / brake lines - that would be FANTASTIC!
    Or if somebody could just point me to an existing photo on this wonderful web-site.
    Regards,
    Grey Ghost.
    PS - As Always, any help is greatly appreciated.

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    Copy Dinty's, not my mediocre example..
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    Layout right (almost)

    Quote Originally Posted by isuzutoo-eh View Post
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    If your'e using checkstraps, the brake line must be attached BEHIND the protector plate. I would also be a lot happier with your right pipe being attached to a plate to minimise vibration. On the left side there should also be a hose type clip around the axle case & brake pipe about 1/2 way between pipe union & plate for same reason. The clips on the plates have a rubber bush, some models had 2 clips/bushes on each plate each side.

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    BOth sides should have the plate shown only on your left. The pipe goes away from the axle on this plate, and needs to be clamped to the plate to prevent vibration. If you are not using check straps it is less important exactly what form the plate takes and which side the pipe is, but you might as well follow the original layout - it provides a bit more protection from sticks.

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    Thanks John, fc110,
    I'll be on the lookout for another plate, I intend seperating, cleaning and oiling the springs after registration, and will improve the brake line mountings at the same time.

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    Not very pretty signts any of those images.

    Dinty's 113-372 restoration would be as good an image as you can get.





    Except that the OEM position has the pipes very close to the housing and usually just behind the lip at the top of the housing as it goes around the diff banjo. Very hard to do in practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
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    Except that the OEM position has the pipes very close to the housing and usually just behind the lip at the top of the housing as it goes around the diff banjo. Very hard to do in practice.
    OEM also has 2 clips/retainers on each plate (one each side).

    Rear brake line retention is a serious safety issue! Even Dinty's setup looks like it is insufficiently retained and would eventually fracture.

    I have experienced this first hand! Although my system was still OEM (at the time - with all retainers), I had a rear brake line fracture about 1" from the T. Of course it happened while I was driving down a steep pass in the great dividing range. The IIA's single circuit brakes meant I rapidly lost all braking, and had an "interesting" experience getting to the bottom of the mountain still in one piece!

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    Interesting - I have been driving series Landrovers for over fifty years, and while I have had brake failures, none have been due to broken tubing. The only leakage I have ever had from a metal brake line was a hole worn in a brake line on the 110 where a nylon fuel line touched it. Note that it was the metal line that wore through, not the nylon!

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    Ben

    You are correct about insufficiently retained as there is usually a metal strap, similar to a cable tie around the pipe on the long side of the housing, but I don't remember there ever being two clamps on the check strap protector, just one on the wheel side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Ben

    You are correct about insufficiently retained as there is usually a metal strap, similar to a cable tie around the pipe on the long side of the housing, but I don't remember there ever being two clamps on the check strap protector, just one on the wheel side.

    Diana
    For what it is worth, the parts book lists four clips, but without a picture reference, and incorrectly describes them as being for the chassis, but the context makes it clear that they are the clips we are talking about. But like you I don't recollect seeing two per side, but I'll look over my collection tomorrow in daylight if I remember!

    John

    And it does list and picture the thing like a hose clip round the long side of the axle to hold the brake pipe.

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