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Thread: S2A : dragging the brakes into the 2st Century

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    I am nervous about my braking system on my series 2 as I am in the process of completely replacing the brakes from the front to the back. I have replaced the single circuit master to a duel master with a factory series 3 booster. I installed 6cyl brakes on the front but the rears are the original type on a Salisbury rear end. Because I am unsure of how the bias will be, I have installed a Willwood adjustable brake bias valve so I can hopefully get it right. It also has an emergency cut so if I loose a wheel cylinder it will still work. So with any luck the brakes should be good once its completed, but until I get it all back together I am still nervous.

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    If its a long wheelbase with 11" brakes, tell me about how good the brakes are backwards, especially down a steep hill?

    Disks have the same efficiency in both directions.
    It's a swb, same brakes in both directions.
    If the rear brakes on a lwb are set up as described they should be reasonable backwards, and you still have the best handbrake in the business.
    As I said, disks are better, if you don't mind doing the conversion.

    Terry
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    After 9 months of trying to get my 88"'s brakes back to some sort of sensible working order I'm heading for a disc conversion too. You name it, I've replaced it... even had the four new Sh*tpart brake drums machined true (two were truly un-round).
    Currently weighing up the Heystee and Torrel (Rovers North) kits. Not so sure that Rovers North still sell them though.
    Heystee sell the replacement swivels and hubs. After that you add on your own Defender rotors/calipers/etc/etc. The Torrel kit is (was?) complete but uses (used?) USA GM rotors/pads/etc.

    I think it'll be the Heystee route - I have a set of front end stuff sitting on a rusty Def front axle here - should clean up OK with a caliper refurbish etc.

    Series bodywork-on-to-Coiler conversion? - Been there and done it. 90's V8 auto RRC with a mish-mash of Series LWB bodywork and Def firewall... It was a great project and it does the business - 100" wheelbase is the bee's knees!

    But... there is still nothing on Earth which gives you a smile on your face after successfully getting a leafer around a track using only your wits and 3 levers while all the others used their jacked-up coil trickery
    Neil

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    I've installed the ROAM OFF-ROAD kit from the US, front & Rear. But they are no longer available .. But I managed to find another place in the US which are making Disc conversions for the Series.. Forbyn Bros. | Quality parts for your classic Land Rover (Very similar to the Roam Off-Road kits)

    I still only have the single brake circuit setup, and my Landy (Series III) stops very quickly.. Planning to upgrade to dual circuit soon.

    These kits use the Landrover Defender rotors & calipers (Which you need to supply separately, they are not supplied with the kit) . These parts are readily available (1994- Present Defer)..

    I am very happy with the disc brake upgrade. Will be better once I get the Dual circuit setup installed..

    Wolf
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    Cookey's new design uses, Willwood calipers and ventilated rotors and more than that can use standard Land Rover rims unlike Chris perfect, Haystee or Roam. The brackets will bolt to the front swivel or the rear axle housing without modification, the only mods are swapping the swivel filler plug and machining the SIII hubs to accept the rotors.

    He just needs to get the batch of brackets CNC'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Cookey's new design uses, Willwood calipers and ventilated rotors and more than that can use standard Land Rover rims unlike Chris perfect, Haystee or Roam. The brackets will bolt to the front swivel or the rear axle housing without modification, the only mods are swapping the swivel filler plug and machining the SIII hubs to accept the rotors.

    He just needs to get the batch of brackets CNC'd.
    I currently run 15" rims on my Roam setup, and the standard rims fit perfect also..

    Wolf
    1972 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Parts
    1974 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Jess - (Registered)
    1975 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Parts
    1978 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Parts
    1979 - S3 SWB (88) Utility - Aurora (TBR)
    2014 - Defender (110) - Cher (MY15)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfman_TWP View Post
    I currently run 15" rims on my Roam setup, and the standard rims fit perfect also..

    Wolf
    But AFAIK it only has a single piston floating calliper, not as efficient as four piston callipers.
    Quote Originally Posted by rover-56 View Post
    It's a swb, same brakes in both directions.
    If the rear brakes on a lwb are set up as described they should be reasonable backwards, and you still have the best handbrake in the business.
    As I said, disks are better, if you don't mind doing the conversion.

    Terry
    Hi Terry

    In a long wheelbase going backwards you have only one leading shoe per side, which in many cases is narrower than shoes on the front.

    A shorty or early 107 has smaller drums but has two leading shoes per side so will stop the same in either direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    But AFAIK it only has a single piston floating caliper, not as efficient as four piston calipers.
    I'm running Defender 4 piston calipers on the front & defender dual piston calipers on the rear. Front disc is the defender vented type, rear are solid. All standard LR parts..

    Wolf
    1972 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Parts
    1974 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Jess - (Registered)
    1975 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Parts
    1978 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Parts
    1979 - S3 SWB (88) Utility - Aurora (TBR)
    2014 - Defender (110) - Cher (MY15)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfman_TWP View Post
    I'm running Defender 4 piston calipers on the front & defender dual piston calipers on the rear. Front disc is the defender vented type, rear are solid. All standard LR parts..

    Wolf
    Can you take some piccies for us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Can you take some piccies for us?
    I have some pics in this thread..

    Disc Brake Conversion.

    Wolf
    1972 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Parts
    1974 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Jess - (Registered)
    1975 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Parts
    1978 - S3 LWB (109) Wagon - Parts
    1979 - S3 SWB (88) Utility - Aurora (TBR)
    2014 - Defender (110) - Cher (MY15)

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