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Thread: S2A : dragging the brakes into the 2st Century

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    But AFAIK it only has a single piston floating calliper, not as efficient as four piston callipers.Hi Terry

    In a long wheelbase going backwards you have only one leading shoe per side, which in many cases is narrower than shoes on the front.

    A shorty or early 107 has smaller drums but has two leading shoes per side so will stop the same in either direction.
    Thanks Diana, I am familiar with lwb brakes.
    My post was to suggest to the OP that series brakes can be made to work reasonably well, not as good as disks I know, but a lot less work.
    he had already started a conversion, so I was too late.

    My S3 ute holds ok on the hills around here backwards, even with the 2 leading shoe front brakes, but I still like knowing that handbrake is there...

    Cheers,
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    Hi Terry

    Back in 1976 I fitted my Series IIa 109 (253V8) with a booster and master cylinder off an LC Torana and I would challenge you to find better drum brakes on a Landy anywhere. But drum brakes still suffer from fade, are unreliable when wet and require frequent adjustment.

    You will find many posts of mine on this forum advocating the retention of drum brakes, but after driving a series with disks (Cookey's) I have changed my position on the issue.

    Diana

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    Good to see all these details - thanks to Wolfman - especially for the link to Forbyn Bros in the USA. I'm mailing them now for more info

    and a little side note:
    My SIII 88" (IIA master cylinder with inline VBH40 booster) has had horrible 'pulling to the right' front brake issues for some weeks. Finally someone noticed I had put a 1 1/4" wheel cylinder on the right and a 1" one on the left.... doh! All is sweet now

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    [QUOTE=brookvale;2237840]Good to see all these details - thanks to Wolfman - especially for the link to Forbyn Bros in the USA. I'm mailing them now for more info

    I Emailed them a couple months ago and was pleased with their reply, unfortunately for me they were a little slow and I had already done the deal with Paul Heystee for disc conversion parts. Im still waiting, as he doesn't make the parts up until they are bought and paid for. It seems from swapping emails with him every couple weeks that my conversion bits wont be ready till some time in November now as the foundry he uses has had some sort of problems with quality and safety concerns. Forbyn Bros kit seems to be better and they have the parts ready to go, and a bit cheaper overall. Hmmm wish I had waited a couple more days for their reply, I would have my discs on by now. Good luck.

    Cheers Rod

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    Rod, I feel the pain re Heystee...
    Greg at Forbyn Bros responded overnight to my questions about P&P to NZ (he's to let me know costs shortly) so initial contact seems good so far

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    The only thing that concerns me about the Forbyn conversion is the "aluminium steering knuckle", which I presume means the swivel housing.

    Is it going to be strong enough? Failure of that component could be seriously scary!

    The rear wheel disc conversion seems to be a good thing,

    Cheers Charlie

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    Aircraft? engines? LR suspension struts? etc I'll be more worried about mis-threading bolts etc.. alloy is not as forgiving as cast steel.
    On the plus side, the unsprung weight of the truck will decrease and go easier on the springs

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazza View Post
    The only thing that concerns me about the Forbyn conversion is the "aluminium steering knuckle", which I presume means the swivel housing.

    Is it going to be strong enough? Failure of that component could be seriously scary!
    Cheers Charlie
    Yeah, those were my thoughts too.

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    They use those aluminium swivel housings on series LR comp trucks over there with gen3 v8's and auto transmissions. They fit dual calipers to them for better stopping power. I personally would have no issues with using them. Some of the aluminium alloys used nowadays are stronger than steel and a lot lighter.
    Wish I could get my money back, I'd get the forbyn kit for sure

    Cheers Rod

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    Thanks for the back up Rod. I've never had any doubts at all. Forbyn are just about to get my order for a front set. Not that I'll be using them on any comp trucks Neil

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