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    Matching Engine Numbers - How Important?

    Hi guys,

    I finally got myself a 2.25 petrol engine for my little project, the catch was...it came with an entire car, just fully pulled apart (G serial number)

    My question is, when doing a restoration, how important is matching engine to chassis numbers?

    The already stripped, painted and re assembled rover is a "C" code with the inward headlights.

    Just food for thought on what one to make "original" without being a rivet counter.

    Thanks in advance

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    It is a rivet counter thing. It more adds saleability to a rivet counter. It might add a few extra dollars to the value.
    Don't discard the original motor if you do put a different motor in.

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    Thanks, I have a holden engine in one and was just searching for an engine but ended up with another car...you know how it goes.

    My plan is, pull one back to original restored condition and the other, just use the holden engine and clean up the body, unoriginal paint etc, possible registration too.

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    In some marques of car, the chassis number/VIN is exactly the same as the engine number.

    In Land Rover this is not the case, e.g. In Aust all early SIIa had engine numbers in the 109 home market sequence and that later changed to numbers in the 88 home market etc. So the numbers could be thousands away from the serial of the vehicle.

    It's only people like me who have some of the original records that can identify what went with which.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    In some marques of car, the chassis number/VIN is exactly the same as the engine number.

    In Land Rover this is not the case, e.g. In Aust all early SIIa had engine numbers in the 109 home market sequence and that later changed to numbers in the 88 home market etc. So the numbers could be thousands away from the serial of the vehicle.

    It's only people like me who have some of the original records that can identify what went with which.

    I think that sums it up, the engine will change chassis! the new car could possibly be either a 69' or 70' so seat belts will need to be fitted and if I want to register it with the holden engine, they will need to be in there regardless.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaybra View Post
    the new car could possibly be either a 69' or 70' so seat belts will need to be fitted
    No they won't. I think seat belts were about '74.
    [ame]https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/pdf/04A.pdf[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaybra View Post
    I think that sums it up, the engine will change chassis! the new car could possibly be either a 69' or 70' so seat belts will need to be fitted and if I want to register it with the holden engine, they will need to be in there regardless.

    Thanks
    A '69 or '70 88" should have engine number prefix:
    • (aprox 243158??G (first G) to 243162??G) a 2410????* engine number
    • (aprox 243167??G (first G) to 243176??G) a 2411????* engine number
    • (aprox 243177??G (first G) to 243176??G) a 2412????* engine number
    • (aprox 243185??G (first G) to 243199??G) a 2413????* engine number
    • (aprox 24320???G (first G) to 243176??G) a 2414????* engine number
    Although it is not uncommon for a vehicle to have an engine several thousand serials before the engine of the next vehicle

    2534????K engine numbers are in vehicles with D suffix.

    A '69 or '70 109" (4cyl) should have engine number prefix:
    • (aprox 25328???G (first G) ) a 25332???K engine
    • (aprox 25329???G to 253319??G) a 2410????A engine or
    • (aprox 25332???G to 253329??G) a 2411????A or
    • (aprox 25333???G to 25336???G vehicle) = 2412????A
    • (aprox 25337???G vehicle onwards) = 2413????A .


    6cyl and diesels will have different sequences.
    Last edited by Lotz-A-Landies; 12th October 2015 at 05:04 PM. Reason: errors corrected

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    A '69 or '70 88" should have a 2341????* engine number prefix.

    A '69 or '70 109" (4cyl) should have a 241?????* engine number prefix.

    6cyl and diesels will have different sequences.
    Not sure what the engine number itself is atm but the chassis is

    24316673G

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    although many manufacturers were already fitting belts - the first being Volvo in the late 1950's - mandatory fitment of seatbelts in Australia (front) was 1969 and mandatory fitment of seatbelts (all) was 1971. It was also made law to actually wear them in 1971 ... although I think it was 1970 in Victoria and South Australia.

    I seem to recall that manufacturers were made to fit front anchor points (but not an actual belt) in passenger vehicles (ie. Not 'Utility' vehicles ... Eg. Land Rovers) in the mid-60's?

    Could be wrong though ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobber View Post
    although many manufacturers were already fitting belts - the first being Volvo in the late 1950's - mandatory fitment of seatbelts in Australia (front) was 1969 and mandatory fitment of seatbelts (all) was 1971. It was also made law to actually wear them in 1971 ... although I think it was 1970 in Victoria and South Australia.

    I seem to recall that manufacturers were made to fit front anchor points (but not an actual belt) in passenger vehicles (ie. Not 'Utility' vehicles ... Eg. Land Rovers) in the mid-60's?

    Could be wrong though ...
    I think you will find it was SAAB followed by Volvo although some US manufacturers offered them as optional extras as early as 1949.

    The SAAB fitting was interesting as it was a sash belt without the lap. In Australia the SMHEA fitted belts to all its vehicles including Land Rover in the 1950s after a number of fatal accidents

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