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    Series 2A ID Request

    Hi all,
    I'm new to the forum and, as of this week, the proud owner of what I'm told is a late 1967 2A LWB truck cab with an alloy tray. I've been browsing through the topics on the forum and have seen a bit of discussion on chassis & engine numbers etc so was hoping someone may be able to assist with some background on this one.
    I bought the vehicle in QLD but it has Pressed Metal Corp Sydney plate with:
    Body No: LRL14963
    Serial No: 10914963
    Chassis No: 34700217A (on interior plate & on the left rear spring hanger)
    Engine No: 34700205A (2.6L 6 cylinder)


    Any info or assistance would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

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    The number first group is 347, meaning 2.6L RHD, CKD, not a station wagon (all sixes were 109s). But the first suffix number was 'D' not 'A', so the A would appear to be incorrect. The relatively low serial number (217) suggests fairly early, best guess 1966-7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    The number first group is 347, meaning 2.6L RHD, CKD, not a station wagon (all sixes were 109s). But the first suffix number was 'D' not 'A', so the A would appear to be incorrect. The relatively low serial number (217) suggests fairly early, best guess 1966-7.

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    Thanks for that John.
    Wondering what you mean when you say the A would be incorrect?


    I'll try & post some pics.

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    Some photos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustav View Post
    Thanks for that John.
    Wondering what you mean when you say the A would be incorrect?


    I'll try & post some pics.
    It certainly looks nice! What I meant is that the Series 2a was introduced in 1961, and the chassis numbers had "A" added to the number. This letter increased with major changes to the vehicle, so that, for example, the change from "C" to "D" in 1967 is significant in that there were major changes to the electrical system. The six was introduced in 1966, but already incorporated the changes that came a few months later, so all sixes should have a letter suffix of "D" or higher. So no six ever had a suffix letter of "A".

    What is not impossible is that PMC incorrectly stamped the letter, in which case the "A" is certainly the legal identity of the vehicle, but using it to find parts etc will only cause confusion!

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    Hello Gustav,

    It is a very nice vehicle. Thanks for posting up the photographs.

    It is only speculation on my part; however, from the look of your tray it may have been replaced later in the vehicle's life. I have a 1976 Series III tray back and it has the twin of your tray on its back. I have also seen other photographs of Series IIIs from around 1976 with the same tray.

    Yours may have originally come with a tray with a hardwood floor and steel sides. I suppose the combined forces of rust and rot could have had their evil way.

    Your photograph showing the wheel rims also answered a question for me. I have one wheel rim that is a different colour from all my other ones. It looks like it might have been off a 2A because the colour of my rim is the same as in the photograph - thanks for that!

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    nice looking thing. Well done.


    how does it drive? The colour reminds me of what is often found on the engine block. Duck Egg Blue or Admiralty Grey I think.
    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    Hello Gustav,

    It is a very nice vehicle. Thanks for posting up the photographs.

    It is only speculation on my part; however, from the look of your tray it may have been replaced later in the vehicle's life. I have a 1976 Series III tray back and it has the twin of your tray on its back. I have also seen other photographs of Series IIIs from around 1976 with the same tray.

    Yours may have originally come with a tray with a hardwood floor and steel sides. I suppose the combined forces of rust and rot could have had their evil way.

    Your photograph showing the wheel rims also answered a question for me. I have one wheel rim that is a different colour from all my other ones. It looks like it might have been off a 2A because the colour of my rim is the same as in the photograph - thanks for that!

    Kind Regards
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    Thanks Lionel,
    Yep I assumed the tray to not be original but thought it would be just a random alloy tray - so interesting to hear you've got the same tray on your SIII & have seen others.


    Re the wheel rims, all 4 are stamped 5.50F x 16 x 33; FV2000727 (I read somewhere that FV stood for fighting vehicle?) & NRC7578 (made in UK??). The spare wheel is different - I can only see the word AUSTRALIA stamped, I'll need to check it more closely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark61 View Post
    nice looking thing. Well done.


    how does it drive? The colour reminds me of what is often found on the engine block. Duck Egg Blue or Admiralty Grey I think.
    cheers,
    D
    I reckon it drives pretty well - I picked it up & drove it for 3.5 hrs with a couple of stops. Didn't miss a beat once it warmed up & the temp gauge never moved once it got to operating temp. Maintained a steady 80-90kph, fourth gear was able to pull up most hills.


    Put it over the pits yesterday for rego - all ok except for needing one tie rod replaced so pretty happy with that.


    Re the colour, I haven't been able to find any original colour bits yet. The bloke I bought it off wasn't too sure of much about it, I think the guy who did the resto work was called Dave from Mackay?

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    NRC7578 are not the original wheels - although they are quite suitable, and have a slightly greater offset, allowing a slightly better turning circle. These wheels were fitted to Series 3 not assembled in Australia (Australia had different locally made wheels) and to Australian assembled 110s , and, I think, to most Defenders with steel wheels assembled anywhere, so are reasonably common.

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