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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    Thanks Diana, that explains a bit about my IIA ute in that case. When I googled up the IIa production run dates last night it indicated the change over from IIa to III was in 1971, but I knew this is what I had under the bonnet. It was complied 6 months after the last IIa produced.
    Not unusual with any locally assembled or even imported car - same applies to my 110, compliance late 1986, but chassis number (and features such as lift up door handles and four speed box) says beginning of 1986.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobslandies View Post
    Simon,

    Vehicle 34712523H, engine no 34524020B 6 Cyl Chassis Cab, Salisbury Axle, supplied 22.5.72 in a batch to the Grain Elevator Board, Registration No EIC129, fitted with Dunlop RTM (Road Track Major) tyres, keys 916 and 701.

    Afraid the Grenville records can't help with anything else

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    That is just amazing Bob! Thank you very much for that info and of course it matches up perfectly with everything (or little) that I know about the vehicle. I should try for that plate again if it is ever reregisterd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Contrary to Diana's comment above, according to the parts books, the inner and outer guards are in fact identical for Series 2a suffix G and F and Series 3, except for the outer guard on Series 3 where fitted with the optional fresh air heater. The fact that no Series 3s appear to have been sold in Australia without the heater does not mean this is a necessary distinguishing feature, and I have heard of at least one S3 (possibly imported) without a heater (or hole), and in any case all the panels except the outer LH one are the same as the late 2a.

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    ....and the SIII's had the cutout in the Right Wing for the brake booster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post

    Addit: Interesting things you find. on page 08.70 of R608024 is a comment at the top of the page:
    "Mischellaneous changes to accommodate the all synchromesh gearbox and salisbury axle on Land-Rover Series IIA models."

    The items include different chassis numbers for all the different variants.
    Land Rover Service Information Vol 1 No 2 Item 6, April 1972 gives an explanation:
    Series III type all syncromesh gearbox adapted for use on Series IIA Bonneted Control models - 4 cyl - Part No. New - 607125, Part No. Rebuilt - 607126; 6 cyl - Part Nos. 607127 and 607128 respectively. There are also sealed clutch withdrawl unit versions listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobHay View Post
    ....and the SIII's had the cutout in the Right Wing for the brake booster
    Sorry - according to the parts book, that again came from 2a sufix G onwards according to the parts book, although the part number for the splash panel is different - but it looks the same in the book.

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    Changes - Series 2A brakes and heaters.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobHay View Post
    ....and the SIII's had the cutout in the Right Wing for the brake booster
    But Series 2A Suffix "G" fitted with 6 cylinder motors also were fitted with brake boosters - so all suffix "G" onwards 109WB front guards driver's side complete are Part No 354566. Suffix "G" onwards also has the stepped inner guard splash panel.
    Outer guard panel passengers side Series 2A Vehicle Suffix "G" 330427 - no heater fresh air inlet hole. This part no is the same from at least 1959 with the introduction of the Series 2. (Series 2 Parts Catalogue Part No 4187 p239)

    Prior to the Series 3 optional heaters fitted are the cylindrical and later flat type recirculating heaters on the firewall over the transmission and under the metal dash tray.

    Series 3 vehicles were the first routinely fitted with the combined recirculating/fresh air type heaters, not that they worked anything like as good as the recirculating ones they replaced. So there was a hole for the fresh air intake in the outer guard as well as the larger rectangular hole in the firewall allowing either fresh or heated airflow into the chamber in the lower sloping dash for distribution to the demisters and lower dash outlets:
    Outer guard panel passengers side Series III 345475 - has the heater inlet hole.
    The first reference I have for the fresh air type heater is in the Optional Equipment Parts Catalogue Sept 1975 - can't find my earlier one. I imagine Australian Design Rules (ADRs) would have meant heaters were by then fitted as standard, more to be used as demisters than heaters.

    ADR 15 - Demisting of Windscreens - came into effect 1 January 1971.
    If you want to know what the numbers on compliance plates of this period refer to have a look here:
    Second Edition Australian Design Rules
    Not all appear to have applied to Land Rovers as they were not classed as passenger car derivatives but as "motor lorries" or "goods carrying vehicles", "omnibuses" etc. and so sometimes fell outside the scope of the ADRs intended for passenger cars.

    Bob
    Last edited by bobslandies; 27th February 2010 at 01:53 PM. Reason: Added ADR info

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