STEERING TROUBLES

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Originally Posted by chazza

G'day Banjo,
Sorry, I should have mentioned that my book is: Land Rover Series III; Repair Operation Manual; AKM3648 (edition 4)

I have had a think about your problem and it seems to me a good plan of attack is to:
1. Jack up front end and support on chassis stands.
2. Remove road wheel.
3. Remove front and rear suspension shackle pins whilst supporting axle on a trolley jack.
4. Disconnect drag link at the appropriate end.
5. Lower the axle and spring clear of the chassis - keep an eye on the brake hose; there should be enough flex in the RH spring to allow it to drop easily.
6. Make up a locating jig using two bolts welded at right angles and perfectly in line onto a rigid backing e.g. a piece of 30 x 30mm RHS tube. I used a bit of 25mm x 10mm flat bar on my S1. The bolts must be the same diameter as the shackle pins. The distance between the centres is 879.3mm if yours is a 109".
7. Remove the front hanger.
8. Clean the hanger of weld and smooth the chassis. Fit the hanger and pass the distance jig through both bushes.
9. Locate the height of the front hanger by measuring down from the top of the front crossmember - clamping a piece of RHS onto the crossmember and measuring with a steel rule and square should work well.
10. Tack the hanger in place and compare it to the other one.
11. If all looks well, weld in place and remove the distance jig.
12. Reassemble car and enjoy :D

Cheers Charlie

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I think your on a winner Charlie, I don't have that workshop manual..
If you get a chance could you scan the page for me & pos up a pic with the measurements plus i will be able to see where all the measurements are taken from....
I sorta understand what you are saying .......

THANKS

G'day Banjo I don't think it would scan well - I have to use a magnifying glass to read it!

All you need to know is:
*That from the top of the front crossmember to the centre of the front hanger eye is a vertical distance of 229mm.
* The distance from the rear chassis bush centre to the centre of the front hanger eye is 879.3mm.

My guess is that a tolerance of about 3mm on the above figures would be acceptable but the closer the better,

Cheers Charlie

Hey Charlie just want to make sure i have the right way of measuring the points i need...
I have a ruff drawing as what i'm doing just to check..
Also if i center punch the bolts could i use these to take the measurements .As the bushes are real good i thought the bolts would be in the center..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...010/07/996.jpg

Thanks again Charlie . . . . .

Ok i have took a measurement from center to center
Passenger side is 880mm on the dot

Driver side is 87.5 ..

I haven't yet taken a measurement from the top of the front cross member as i will have to take the winch & bull bar off for that..

But i was wondering if someone has the time if they could take 2 measurements for me from the bottom of the two rods to the top of the spring on the passenger side ..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...010/07/989.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...010/07/990.jpg

I'm curious to what they are on a standard setup..
The one between the 2 wheels is about 20mm on mine
And the steering one is about 15mm ish...

Thanks..

Here you go from ours... although this is a stage 1:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...010/07/987.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...010/07/988.jpg

Oh crap thats heeps i only got 20mm & 15mm ish . So i guess there is something realy wrong with mine..



& i was thinking thismorning what if i cut some 3 or 5mm plate & drill & put between the diff & spring just to lift them away a it .. If so Should i do both side or just the passenger side ?????????
I realy don't want to have to pull the whole front end off & cut the dumb iron to redo it...:mad:

See mine is a little lower on the drivers side at the steering box as its now on the outside of the chassis & is the toyota box...

G'day Banjo,
In your sketch you have 229mm as a horizontal dimension but it should be the distance down from the top of the xmember to the centre of the eye.

Marking the centre of the bolts is a really good idea :D

Are you sure you can't cut the hanger off with the bodywork in place? I would have thought there would be enough room with the wheel off and the bumper off.

Cheers Charlie

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Originally Posted by chazza

G'day Banjo,
In your sketch you have 229mm as a horizontal dimension but it should be the distance down from the top of the xmember to the centre of the eye.

Marking the centre of the bolts is a really good idea :D

Are you sure you can't cut the hanger off with the bodywork in place? I would have thought there would be enough room with the wheel off and the bumper off.

Cheers Charlie

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Yeah i ment to put an arrow on there as to where it should be..

Na the hanger is welded on every side & onto the front of the crossmember...

Looks like i will be pulling it apart & doing it properly . . .:mad: .

Better that way to . . .

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Cheers
Danny