Thread: Strongest Rover front axle combo for SIII.

A front salsbury out of a one tonne series 3 or a 101.

Garry

Originally Posted by garrycol

A front salsbury out of a one tonne series 3 or a 101.

Garry

The 101 would not be bolt in, but I agree about the axle from the One Ton (not one tonne), preferably the Salisbury not the ENV. Pity they were never sold in Australia and are scarce as hen's teeth anywhere!

Unless you are doing something pretty outrageous I have not known front axles to be a particular weakness since they started putting reinforcing on the housings on 109s about the start of 2a production.

John

The strongest standard (easily available) parts are the SIII 109 front axles with the 24 spline drive flanges. the 101 while strong, are 4" too wide for a standard SIII.

Have you been breaking front axles on your 88"? It's quite an unusual occurrence if you do.

Strongest bolt-in that replaces current axle housing - SIII one-ton front salisbury.

Strongest bolt-in that retains existing axle housing:
30-spline axles from here: Extreme duty axles
A hypoid diff centre from here: Jack McNamara - Differential Specialists

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

the 101 while strong, are 4" too wide for a standard SIII.

I think you mean 10"

From memory:
Series 2/3 Axles are ~55" WMS-WMS
Coiler Axles are ~61" WMS-WMS
FC101 Axles are ~65" WMS-WMS

Originally Posted by isuzurover

Strongest bolt-in that replaces current axle housing - SIII one-ton front salisbury.
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I think you mean 10"

From memory:
Series 2/3 Axles are ~55" WMS-WMS
Coiler Axles are ~61" WMS-WMS
FC101 Axles are ~65" WMS-WMS

As I said easiest available - only about 1/2 of the SIII 1 Ton production had Salisbury front axles - the remainder had standard SIII 109 axle assemblies. So acquiring an original 1 ton front Salisbury in Oz would be a feat in itself.

I was not aware that the 101 track was 65" I always believed the 101 to have about 60" track (only slightly wider than the 59" of the SIIB - teven the 101 Ambulance body is only 69" wide and the wheels look more than 2" inset from the body on those.)



The Perentie 6X6 have a track somewhere around 65"

Well, you ppl have just bowled me over. I wouldn't have even imagined the amount I Don't know about Landies after those replies. I have a Lot to learn, but the journey is terrific.
Will the Salisbury shorten the front prop shaft length? Would I just swap to the one ton prop shaft if it does need to be shorter?
This will kill the proverbial two birds, as I want to upgrade the front brakes as well.

Quote Lotz-A-Landies .... "Have you been breaking front axles on your 88"? It's quite an unusual occurrence if you do."
No, Diana. It hasn't turned a wheel in anger yet. Just that I have access to the parts and at the same time, want to upgrade the brakes.



Cheers,
Daryl.

Originally Posted by circlework

Well, you ppl have just bowled me over. I wouldn't have even imagined the amount I Don't know about Landies after those replies. I have a Lot to learn, but the journey is terrific.
Will the Salisbury shorten the front prop shaft length? Would I just swap to the one ton prop shaft if it does need to be shorter?
This will kill the proverbial two birds, as I want to upgrade the front brakes as well.

Quote Lotz-A-Landies .... "Have you been breaking front axles on your 88"? It's quite an unusual occurrence if you do."
No, Diana. It hasn't turned a wheel in anger yet. Just that I have access to the parts and at the same time, want to upgrade the brakes.



Cheers,
Daryl.

Daryl, I am curious. As there are (officially) no One-Ton's in AU, how can you have "access to the parts"???

However - yes - the propshaft is about 3-4" shorter. Not sure if the helical T-case in the one-ton has the output in the same position - so not sure if the one-ton prop will fit.

It is fairly easy to turn a rear sals into a front one if you know a competent welder/machinist. You will notice the grader blade effect of a front sals offroad if you are running anything smaller than a 9.00x16 (36")

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

I was not aware that the 101 track was 65" I always believed the 101 to have about 60" track(only slightly wider than the 59" of the SIIB - teven the 101 Ambulance body is only 69" wide and the wheels look more than 2" inset from the body on those.)

I am talking WMS-WMS measurements (Wheel Mounting Surface). These are not the same as track with as track depends on the rims. Plenty of vehicles have negative offset so the track width is less than the WMS measurement.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

As is said easiest available - only about 1/2 of the SIII 1 Ton production had Salisbury front axles - the remainder had standard SIII 109 axle assemblies. So acquiring an original 1 ton front Salisbury in Oz would be a feat in itself.

OH, then how about the stage one with the cv joints or are the cv's the weak link?



Cheers,
Daryl.


ps. You folks can type too fast!