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    Car died today

    Well the wife leaves for work this morning & only gets to the end of the street, & i gets a call the car has died & theres nothing no power anywhere..
    So i goes for a walk up the street tries the key & nothing.
    So we pushed it back home & i start checking the batery & all the wires as the bateries are up the back in the side boxes.
    All is good the batery reads 12.61 so its not dead so i start checking all the wires all the way back to the front had power , was checking with test light poking the wires.
    Got to the fuse box & found there was a bad fuse & not a very good conection with the fuse.
    The car is a 1973 LWB with holden 202.
    I thought the ignition system wasnt part of the fuse box as i read somewhere on here that you can start a series & take all the fuses out & the engine would still go..
    It was the bottom fuse in the 4 that it has..
    Is this corect about being able to take the fuses out & have the engine still run ??
    I checked the manuel quickly & seen there was a wire going from the ignition switch to the fuse box.
    After i got it sorted i started the car & took the bottom fuse out & the car stoped dead..
    Have i rewired the car wrong or this is correct ??

    Any advise would be great thanks.

    Karen has now gone to work now..


    Jason..

    1969 LWB S2a yellow, gone
    1972 LWB S2a 5 DOOR wagon coming & GONE
    1973 LWB S3 green Sadly GONE
    1977 LWB S3 tabletop building
    1992 disco BOINGY BOINGY

    My landrover doesn't leak oil , IT SWEATS POWER

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    wiring layout

    Hi Banjo

    My Laptop was crying for attention and woke me up from my afternoons poppy nap !

    I then read your distress about the wiring. My first thoughts are fuses are good as they have this uncanny ability to keep the smoke in the wires by their willingness to sacrifice their precious little lives in a flash.

    I am in the process of sorting wiring in a late 2A and I can get back to this thread with some more information fo you, as that very mixed up Landy , also has a Holden motor fitted .

    Attention Up to the top right hand side of this page you will find Files in which is a list of wiring diagrams, select the diagram for the motor that used to be originally fitted in your Landy and go from there.
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    Last edited by wrinklearthur; 24th January 2012 at 02:40 PM. Reason: remembered wiring diagrams

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    Thank Authur

    I got it going this morning the fuse had'nt blown was still in one peice But when i did a continuity test on it there was no beep from my autometer but there was then there was'nt then there was then there was'nt.
    Anyway i did'nt have a spare so put the old one in & moved it about & it worked .Got the wife to work & home again.
    Then she went shopping & on the way home it died again as soon as she turned into our street..
    She had picked up a couple of spares on way home from work so she quickly put one in & hey presto it was all good again..

    All the fuses in the fuse box are 10 amp are they all sposed to be that or are they differant sizes ????

    Going to see if i can find those diagrams now ..
    I have heaps of manuals with the wirring diagrams & im sure its right as its been on the road for 3 plus years & this is the first time its done it..will have to go over the wires again & make sure they are'nt rubbing on the body anywhere or where they go through the body..
    Now if it would just stop raining so i can do this..

    Thanks Jason..

    1969 LWB S2a yellow, gone
    1972 LWB S2a 5 DOOR wagon coming & GONE
    1973 LWB S3 green Sadly GONE
    1977 LWB S3 tabletop building
    1992 disco BOINGY BOINGY

    My landrover doesn't leak oil , IT SWEATS POWER

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    Well just went & crawled from the back to the front under the car tracing the wires & theres no contact anywhere or rub marks or exposed wires anywhere..OH joy in the cutter full of water & dirt GGGGGRRRRRRRRR..
    So maybe it was just a dodgy fuse ?
    I'd like to know the correct sizes the fuses need to be now..

    1969 LWB S2a yellow, gone
    1972 LWB S2a 5 DOOR wagon coming & GONE
    1973 LWB S3 green Sadly GONE
    1977 LWB S3 tabletop building
    1992 disco BOINGY BOINGY

    My landrover doesn't leak oil , IT SWEATS POWER

    JASON & KAREN

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    If you are talking about the little glass fuses these can go intermittent from "old age" (or whatever- maybe it's vibration) and cause just these sorts of symptoms. Willing to bet that you don't have any further problems now that you have fitted a new fuse. The break can occur where the little shiny cap on the end contacts the fusible bit on the inside. You can't see the break because it's inside the little cap. And if you move the fuse about, it sometimes remakes contact- just enough to pass sufficient current- for a while. But because the contact is tenuous at best, it begins to get a bit hot due to the small surface area conducting the current, and can melt a wee bit and break the contact again. Or else the vibration gets to it and breaks the contact.
    If you grab the ends of the fuse by the little caps and gently tug, the fuse shouldn't come apart. If it does, it was the source of the problem.

    Coop

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    it can also be the corrosion in the fuse holders, a bit of emery paper helps out.
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    Hi Jason

    What was the original motor and year of build of Your Landy? I can then answer your question about what size fuse is required.

    Those glass fuses can look perfect and intact, but the fuse wire can let go where they are spot welded inside their end cap and not be seen. Use the continuity tester setting on your multimeter to check this, but continuity must be checked with the fuse out of its holder.

    The inside of the clips of the holders can have their contact surface improved by giving them a bit of a rub, to do this, use a cotton bud and a drop or two of Brasso. If corrosion does look to be the problem, use a little Vaseline grease, smear this around the clips of the fuse holder after it has been cleaned as this will help to keep the moisture away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C00P View Post
    If you are talking about the little glass fuses these can go intermittent from "old age" (or whatever- maybe it's vibration) and cause just these sorts of symptoms. Willing to bet that you don't have any further problems now that you have fitted a new fuse. The break can occur where the little shiny cap on the end contacts the fusible bit on the inside. You can't see the break because it's inside the little cap. And if you move the fuse about, it sometimes remakes contact- just enough to pass sufficient current- for a while. But because the contact is tenuous at best, it begins to get a bit hot due to the small surface area conducting the current, and can melt a wee bit and break the contact again. Or else the vibration gets to it and breaks the contact.
    If you grab the ends of the fuse by the little caps and gently tug, the fuse shouldn't come apart. If it does, it was the source of the problem.

    Coop
    Yep thats them the glass type.Hoping the new one fixed it, Find out tomorrow when wife uses it for work..
    Thanks..

    1969 LWB S2a yellow, gone
    1972 LWB S2a 5 DOOR wagon coming & GONE
    1973 LWB S3 green Sadly GONE
    1977 LWB S3 tabletop building
    1992 disco BOINGY BOINGY

    My landrover doesn't leak oil , IT SWEATS POWER

    JASON & KAREN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    it can also be the corrosion in the fuse holders, a bit of emery paper helps out.
    I think ya right Dave i'll give them all a good clean tomorrow aswell.

    1969 LWB S2a yellow, gone
    1972 LWB S2a 5 DOOR wagon coming & GONE
    1973 LWB S3 green Sadly GONE
    1977 LWB S3 tabletop building
    1992 disco BOINGY BOINGY

    My landrover doesn't leak oil , IT SWEATS POWER

    JASON & KAREN

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinklearthur View Post
    Hi Jason

    What was the original motor and year of build of Your Landy? I can then answer your question about what size fuse is required.

    Those glass fuses can look perfect and intact, but the fuse wire can let go where they are spot welded inside their end cap and not be seen. Use the continuity tester setting on your multimeter to check this, but continuity must be checked with the fuse out of its holder.

    The inside of the clips of the holders can have their contact surface improved by giving them a bit of a rub, to do this, use a cotton bud and a drop or two of Brasso. If corrosion does look to be the problem, use a little Vaseline grease, smear this around the clips of the fuse holder after it has been cleaned as this will help to keep the moisture away.
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    Authur its a LWB originaly rover 6 . 1973 not sure of the month off hand..

    We have one more spare fuse but will get more tomorrow after work..

    Vibrations in a landrover , Who'd of thought .

    Thanks to everyone. will let use all know how we get on..

    1969 LWB S2a yellow, gone
    1972 LWB S2a 5 DOOR wagon coming & GONE
    1973 LWB S3 green Sadly GONE
    1977 LWB S3 tabletop building
    1992 disco BOINGY BOINGY

    My landrover doesn't leak oil , IT SWEATS POWER

    JASON & KAREN

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