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    Diff ratios

    HI everyone,
    My new series 3 swb 1978 needs a new front diff center and i have a series 2a 1966 model will the diffs be the same ratio?

    Cheers luke

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    Yes, they should be both 4.7:1 ratio, counting the revolutions of the wheel in regard to the propshaft should confirm.

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    As Mark says - all Series Landrovers (except some very early 8)" and Stage 1 V8 or Isuzu) came from the factory with 4.7:1 interchangeable diffs. Since the RR classic/Disco diffs at 3.54:1 are interchangeable, it is worth checking that someone has not done a swap in the past. (These are the most common replacements, there are others.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    As Mark says - all Series Landrovers (except some very early 8)" and Stage 1 V8 or Isuzu) came from the factory with 4.7:1 interchangeable diffs. Since the RR classic/Disco diffs at 3.54:1 are interchangeable, it is worth checking that someone has not done a swap in the past. (These are the most common replacements, there are others.)

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    Just a question on this:

    Will the Series coarse spline diff centers fit the RRC/early Disco 1 side shafts?

    Can I drop an early RRC axle into my S2A and just swop centers to keep the 4.7 ratio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeslouw View Post
    Just a question on this:

    Will the Series coarse spline diff centers fit the RRC/early Disco 1 side shafts?

    Can I drop an early RRC axle into my S2A and just swop centers to keep the 4.7 ratio?
    Yes.
    I have done the opposite, pulled the diff centre from a Disco1 and put it in my 80" fitted with series 2 fully floating axles to up the ratio from 4.7 to 3.5.
    Both 10 spline

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeslouw View Post
    Just a question on this:

    Will the Series coarse spline diff centers fit the RRC/early Disco 1 side shafts?

    Can I drop an early RRC axle into my S2A and just swop centers to keep the 4.7 ratio?
    As far as the drive mechanicals go, yes. But the track is different and the RRC has coils not leaf springs, and the track rod and the leaf springs need to occupy the same space - which has led to a number of creative solutions, none of which seem to be particularly satisfactory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    As far as the drive mechanicals go, yes. But the track is different and the RRC has coils not leaf springs, and the track rod and the leaf springs need to occupy the same space - which has led to a number of creative solutions, none of which seem to be particularly satisfactory!

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    Drat. One solution is SOA?

    I don't mind welding in leaf spring perches, but track rod mounting mods could be an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeslouw View Post
    Drat. One solution is SOA?

    I don't mind welding in leaf spring perches, but track rod mounting mods could be an issue.
    There are four basic approaches.

    1. modified track rod with bends (or offsets) in it to clear springs and diff - unlikely any engineer would ever approve it.

    2. Build very high spring pads - probably most used, reduced ground clearance, needs either non-standard springs or changed spring mounts and shackles.

    3. Use a LHD swivel housing on the right, move the track rod to the front, and attach the drag link to the track rod. The most satisfactory, but LHD components are a bit thin on the ground, and making the track rod to satisfy an engineer likely to be expensive.

    4. Rotate the axle housing so the track rod is higher. Increased castor, problems with prop shaft U-joint angles. Sometimes combined with (2).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    There are four basic approaches.

    1. modified track rod with bends (or offsets) in it to clear springs and diff - unlikely any engineer would ever approve it.

    2. Build very high spring pads - probably most used, reduced ground clearance, needs either non-standard springs or changed spring mounts and shackles.

    3. Use a LHD swivel housing on the right, move the track rod to the front, and attach the drag link to the track rod. The most satisfactory, but LHD components are a bit thin on the ground, and making the track rod to satisfy an engineer likely to be expensive.

    4. Rotate the axle housing so the track rod is higher. Increased castor, problems with prop shaft U-joint angles. Sometimes combined with (2).

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    Hi Johnno

    1. No such thing in South Africa, ESPECIALLY with a Series LR. As long as it passes roadworthy (basic alignment and toe-in COR checks) it's 100%. Any links to pix?
    2. OK, understand that, and high ground clearance isn't a need, this is a farm hack, and I have no rocks.
    3. LHD is unobtainable over here.
    4. Could do that when I weld on the perches. Vehicle will never do high mileage, and due to steering issues I'll never go over 80kph. Can always do a double UJ shaft.

    Thanks mate.

    Jakes

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