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    Brake Upgrade!

    I am looking at upgrading the brakes on a SWB Series three and i have a LWB wreck that has 11 inch x 3 inch brakes on it that i may use. It was a six cylinder but it may have had a break upgrade as i thought only the V8's had the 3 inch shoes. Would i be over-breaking the vehicle or is this a reasonable conversion?
    Has anyone done this conversion and had any issues or was it a success?

    Cheers, Mick.
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    Sixes too

    Quote Originally Posted by mick88 View Post
    I am looking at upgrading the brakes on a SWB Series three and i have a LWB wreck that has 11 inch x 3 inch brakes on it that i may use. It was a six cylinder but it may have had a break upgrade as i thought only the V8's had the 3 inch shoes. Would i be over-breaking the vehicle or is this a reasonable conversion?
    Has anyone done this conversion and had any issues or was it a success?

    Cheers, Mick.
    Hello from Brisbane.

    The 6 cylinder trucks also had 11 X 3" front brakes.

    Should work fine,

    Cheers,

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    Late Series 3 all models 109 went to 3" brakes. This is a good upgrade for a swb, but you will need to use the lwb master cylinder.

    John
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    I have a SIII shorty that has LWB brakes & a servo fitted.
    I haven't used it in anger yet but the previous owner claimed it improved braking significantly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Late Series 3 all models 109 went to 3" brakes. This is a good upgrade for a swb, but you will need to use the lwb master cylinder.

    John

    I intend taking it on a trip around Tassie in a year or two, so probably a good modification to do on the old girl before I embark on that adventure!


    Cheers, Mick.
    1974 S3 88 Holden 186.
    1971 S2A 88
    1971 S2A 109 6 cyl. tray back.
    1964 S2A 88 "Starfire Four" engine!
    1972 S3 88 x 2
    1959 S2 88 ARN 111-014
    1959 S2 88 ARN 111-556
    1988 Perentie 110 FFR ARN 48-728 steering now KLR PAS!
    REMLR 88
    1969 BSA Bantam B175

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    I already have a servo fitted, but just have standard ten inch SWB brakes.
    What size/width shoes do the LWB 6 cylinder trucks have on the rear?


    Cheers, Mick.
    1974 S3 88 Holden 186.
    1971 S2A 88
    1971 S2A 109 6 cyl. tray back.
    1964 S2A 88 "Starfire Four" engine!
    1972 S3 88 x 2
    1959 S2 88 ARN 111-014
    1959 S2 88 ARN 111-556
    1988 Perentie 110 FFR ARN 48-728 steering now KLR PAS!
    REMLR 88
    1969 BSA Bantam B175

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    I think they are the same size. difference is the fronts have 2 wheel cylinders per side, rears only have the 1

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    Not 3"

    Quote Originally Posted by debruiser View Post
    I think they are the same size. difference is the fronts have 2 wheel cylinders per side, rears only have the 1
    Hello from Brisbane.

    The rear linings are narrower - 11" X 2" I think(?). My drums are off at the moment and I thought to measure them over the weekend, but figured someone else would have responded with the answer before this.

    You are right that the fronts have 2 slave cylinders. The backing plates for the front drums are different between the earlier 4 and 6 cylinder set ups as are (obviously) the drums - to allow for the extra 0.5" of width they are slightly offset and the drum side profile has a square rather than tapered edge for the same reason.

    Cheers,

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    Errata

    Hello again.

    11" X 2.5" rear - just measured one.

    Funny how quickly you forget things.

    Cheers,

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    Hi
    I did my SWB years ago I think you move the front cylinders to the back cause they are bigger parts book comfirms this, also I had to change the master cylinder piping around.It came with a dual booster system from new and yes it stops better.
    Cheers Will

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