Thread: Fitting New Seatbelts to a s3 109 Truck Cab

Originally Posted by Dark61

PLEASE NOTE: These brackets do NOT fit a truck cab land rover).

D

Hello D,

Oh Yes they Can ... see my posting about the UK forum. It seems that a number of people do not want to pay over $100 for the truck cab part.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Thanks for this - I'll take a look at the link.


I double checked with Exmoor just in case their site was wrong and they confirmed that that bracket was a no go for the Truck Cab. I've also sent a few emails off.


When sites say suitable for series IIa / III maybe they don't mean suitable for a Truck Cab - just a wagon?


Anyway - I'll go take a look at the link. Thanks for that - I'll let you know how I get on.


cheers,
D

Hello Dark61,

I suppose there are two options. 1) go down the path of the heavy duty bracket that goes roof to tub like in Baldrick and Rebus. 2) use the part that I mistakenly directed you towards and modify it like they suggest on the UK forum link.

The options seem similar to people fitting the anchorage point for a soft top - you could either go down the John Craddock path EXT500-1 - Soft Top Seat Belt Mounting Bar Use with Belts EXT001 - 8 and EXT001 - 7

Or follow the option that AULRO member Jonathan (Jondavball) did and fit the anchorage point to the tub http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-iii...ml#post2304988

Both soft top options are engineer approved.

So there are at least two truck cab options: one with nice big bars or, two a bracket (ADU710100) modified like in the UK forum. Or as Colin (Gromit) shown in one his post to this thread - what is most likely a backyard interpretation of the modified bracket (ADU710100) option.

Click on the links within the main body of text and it will take you both images. Apparently, if you click on the "Attached Thumbnails" they will log you off - because they are doing it to me too!

Kind Regards
Lionel

Originally Posted by Dark61

When sites say suitable for series IIa / III maybe they don't mean suitable for a Truck Cab - just a wagon?

cheers,
D

Hello Dark 61

Just before I found the link to the UK forum about modifying (ADU710100) I found one supplier that had the "Not for Truck Cab" written in their descriptions and they linked the use of the part to "Hardtops". http://www.roversnorth.com/Land-Rover-Parts/85. This page has the full range of seat belt parts for the full selection of Series bodies. Including the part number for Baldrick & Rebus' bracket - shown in the UK Land Rover Forum as (MRC4671 & MRC4672) at $119.95 + $109.95 - US dollars each, plus freight from overseas . The Roversnorth crew have the parts listed as PLF469 & PLE267. There is also the cost of the two securing brackets too.

It would have been handy if I found this page first - sorry about that Dark61!

The "Hard Top" is the body type with the "style side" - with wheel wells within the cargo area, that later gets fitted with a full length canopy. It still has only two doors on the sides unlike the "Station Wagon" that has four doors on the sides. According to the RoversNorth page Station Wagons have different bracket.

What threw me previously to finding this is out is that I have a "Hard Top". However it does not have the infamous bracket (ADU710100) fitted to it. Someone just drilled a hole through one of the vertical side struts and threaded through a seat belt anchor bolt! The vehicle was previously registered and did not have any modification blue plates so I thought it was the norm.

The other thing that confused me is that my official parts catalogues do not feature a diagram or a part number in their index for the bracket like Baldrick and Rebus have - just a part that says it does the same job and that it is at least the second "superseded" part number.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Hello Dark61,

Here are some photographs of Morse my ex-army Fitted For Radio that a previous owner installed a "hard top" on. Also some photos showing how they fitted the seat belt - without using the approved bracket; the dreaded (ADU710100)

I will try the Photobucket option because it works. I superimposed where ADU710100 may be meant to go - it looks really obvious - Doh!!!

Morse HardTop.jpg Photo by Lionelgee | Photobucket

Kind Regards
Lionel

Thanks again Lionel


Just had a look at the UK site and its something to bear in mind. I'm not keen on shaving off so close to a bolt hole - bit its an option to consider. I'd also beef up the bracket for the inertia reel.


A good post though , plenty of pics and good explanations. I particularly liked the heads up with the piece of wood to stop you from drilling through the roof ! That would of made me spit If I had done that.


I'll go look at the other links. I've asked the Mods to transfer the posting re the pics issue to IT - we'll see what happens.


cheers,
D


p.s - The Rovers North set up looks good and strong (and expensive)

Originally Posted by Dark61

I'm not keen on shaving off so close to a bolt hole - bit its an option to consider. I'd also beef up the bracket for the inertia reel.


cheers,
D


p.s - The Rovers North set up looks good and strong (and expensive)

Hello Dark,

With the bolt hole being close to the metal that is ground off - you could move the position of the bolt. The two bolt holes through the channel will have to be drilled anyway, as it is not a prefabricated spacing.

The bolt hole close to the edge could also be welded up, or a similar gauge metal plate welded/Sikaflex along the full length and width of the top of the bracket. You could then drill a new hole in a place that has some more meat around it. Plus you could make three reinforcing plates: one fitted inside the bracket, 1 on top of the bracket and another plate that goes on top of the channel. This would make it stronger.

Even with Baldrick and Rebus' ubute vertical roof to tub plate and the connecting right-angle bracket are only held at the top by two pretty thin bolts that go through the roof channel/gutter. It does not even have a reinforcing plate on top of the channel just a washer and the nut.

Both the modified bracket and the ubute vertical bracket have two bolts securing them to the channel and only one bolt at the bottom.

Kind Regards
Lionel

I like the idea of the three re-enforcing plates - I think that could overcome my nervousness of chopping away the corner.


I think you definitely have the king of brackets so far.


I have made enquiries of Rovers North + Craddocks so will see what eventuates. I've spent so much on incidentals - I'm in two minds whether I should spend more or start to economise. Choices , choices......


Thanks again,


cheers,
D