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    Electrician needed, conversant in the dark art of Lucas

    Hi, I'm looking for a mobile electrician who can help me troubleshoot my Series 3 electrics. I know my limitations - My Landy is in my garage and putting her back together after a full rebuild, can't work out why some things aren't working so I've decided to get some help. Would probably take someone who knows what he's doing an hour or so to get everything working. Some local guys here but would prefer someone who knows Lucas electrics and a recommendation from the guys on the forum. I'm in Sydney Nr. Hurstville area.

    Thank you for any contacts in advance.

    Shaun

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    care to post up some of the symptoms?

    you might find its very simple stuff that you wouldnt think of normally but with the experience in here its been seen before so we can point you in the right place.
    Dave

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    what Blknight said .


    I was flapping about in the dark (literally) when I first took possession of Woodstock and then I learnt to take one issue at a time, rather than look behind the dash and think blimey where do all they go?! I found a wiring diagram helped + a healthy mistrust of anything that looked like mains wire and all earths. Any wires that were cut , I ended with a cable connector for future ref. Its not as difficult as it looks.
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    Thanks for the responses

    I'm at the stage where i have so much still to do on the rebuild and i've found the electrics a bit daunting generally so my plan was to save some time and if I could get someone to help me on the electrics - happy to pay someone.

    Basically she starts, charge light on, and the wipers work but everything else front end wise - indicators, main lights, side lights etc - nothing. All new lights at the front apart from headlights. Haven't checked these but presume I could with a multimeter to check continuity across the bulb. If at least one worked I might know i'm on the right track.

    All the wiring is accessible as I haven't fixed the binnacle in yet.

    I haven't wired up the rear yet either - I still have this to do.

    When i try the indicators the drivers side doesn't light but the light in the dash lights but is just permanently on (not flashing). Nothing on the left. I don't know if I have wired the flasher unit up properly as I had no record of where everything went (it was just loose in the dash when I bought it and never ran so don't know if what i started with was OK.

    I had labelled everything before i took it apart and followed the wiring diagram taking pictures as well but i might have made some simple mistakes. Sure I have actually.

    So not sure where to start.

    Shaun

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    A lot of your problem with the front lights especially might just be that the connectors/joiners are not making good contact. I had a similar issue recently when reassembling my vehicle. Give the connectors a good clean, as well as earthing points too. Also a good test light helps.
    Good luck.


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    start at the battery and the earth straps.

    work your way out from there.

    follow the wiring diagram.

    dont use a mulitmeter for series electrics unless you're looking for specific voltages, you're at the stage where you need a 12v10w test lamp. A meter will find what is often referred to as "phantom voltages" a 10w test lamp wont (usually)

    while you're messing with the electrics remove either the earth lead or the positive lead and fit a 100w (2x 50w bulbs in parallel) between the terminal and the lead) with the exception of the heater fan on flat out and the headlights the 100W light will glow brightly if you accidentally short something out. Everything else will work a fraction slower or dimmer than usual but thats what you want. Once youve got it all set up an happy drop the bulbs out and with everything switched off reconnect the lead.

    99% of the time you're going to be good straight up.
    Dave

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    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


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    Electrics: therapy!

    Hello Shaun, been there, done that. A big tangle of wires that only does a few things, usually very weirdly or wrong is jolly intimidating.

    it's a good idea to print out the correct wiring diagram, found near page 48 from part six of the workshop manual, obtainable from here: what an excellent source of information!

    The tangle can slowly become understood by following the colour codes, and you will find that many wires are still in place, but some will have been replaced over time. When you find something unusual, write it down on your printed out wiring diagram, you can work out whether it matters later.

    The original wiring harness is surprisingly well thought out; it's only designed to look intimidating. In most places where something might need to be replaced, like side lights or brake lights, indicators, etc, actually have push-fit bullet connectors. When you buy a replacement light fitting, the wires are usually the right length to reach the correct bullet connector; so if it doesn't fit, you may be trying to connect to the wrong wire. (yes, I did learn that the hard way...)

    Get yourself an aerosol can of electric cleaning solvent (from Jaycar, part NA1004 or similar,) and squirt it down every bullet connection. As you do, note the colour of the wire, so you can say 'aha', it's for that fitting, and you'll start to get your head around what goes where. Do the same for every light bulb socket as you take the bulb out and see what works. It's a good idea to make a map or to scribble on the wiring diagram as you go. Also, squirt some cleaner into the dashboard switches.

    I'd then go behind the dash to check out the other end of the wires. When you do that, take the cover off the steering column first, ( again, learn from my pain..) I think it's six screws to get it off from memory, and then you can spray contact cleaner into the back of the small fuse box too.

    Does the petrol engine run? if so, you won't need to worry about the wires between the ignition, the coil and the distributor. If it doesn't run, let me know.

    Above all, use pen and paper and sketch things out as you find them. This will give you time to stop and think about what is going on; it will give you time to map out the confusing tangle, and help you to work it all out. Don't rush it, just work one thing at time, systematically. Find both ends of a wire, make a continuity tester of some kind so you can check that the wire behind the dash really does connect with the other end! (I use a couple of wires with croc clips at the ends and a bodged-in LED torch.)

    Blknight's tips look really cool: I'll be setting up my own 100W thingy in the near future, instead of touching wires together lightly in case something sparks..

    Be brave, be methodical, and safe it as spare project for when you get stuck on something else and want something different to do. That way, you'll have more time to ponder as you you work out wot goes where.

    Have fun! Cerise

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