Thread: Rebus

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

Hello All,

Rebus my Series III Long Wheel base tray back ute was originally fitted with a Land Rover 2.6 Litre, six cylinder motor. When I bought Rebus there was a 202 cubic inch Holden red motor fitted to it. After some saga the engine was identified as a late 1977 manufacture and out of a Torana.

I also found out that instead of being fitted with a Stromberg carburettor for a 202 it was fitted with a 161 cubic inch carburettor - the one recommended by some to fit to the 2.25 litre petrol four cylinder Land Rover motor. The previous owner noted that on the high way in top gear the car seemed to struggle for fuel - no wonder!

Does anyone know what year and model of Holden 202 cubic inch or 3.3 litre motor came with a fully electronic distributor as standard?

Oh well hopefully the new electric fuel pump I installed just before the old starter motor died is just playing coy today. When I turned on the ignition the fuel pump did not come on like it should have.

The new starter motor I installed today worked very well though

Kind Regards
Lionel

Don't quote me, Lionel, but I doubt it was prior to the HX Holden, or LH Torana. Why worry though, there are a million electronic dissies out there to suit the Red, Blue or Black motors. Sure, some will have different advance curves, but it's a Holden in a LandRover. I'm sure you can get it sorted.

Holden 6 Electronic Distributor 138 149 161 173 179 186 202 Red Blue Black Motor | eBay

is just one.

Hi Lionel,
The holden HEI electronic distributors, (HEI stands for High Energy Ignition), were fitted as standard to all holden blue motors from VC commodore up to VH and VK black in the 6 cylinders with the exception of the 3.3 black VK NON efi auto, and the 4 cyl starfire. The 6 cyl black was fitted with an electronic system called an EST or Electronic Spark Timing, controlled by a computer and an EST sensor that was triggered by magnets affixed to the torque converter on automatics. Just as a note, several of the EST sensors used to get broken because they were forgotten about when engines or transmissions were removed as they were fixed to the back of the engine block and passed through a hole in the bell housing. The EST drive plate was also fitted with a dowel pin so that the standard drive plates could not be fitted by mistake. The manual VK commodore 6 cyl was fitted with the HEI electronic distributor as was the EFI 3.3 black motor. The Blue motors were also fitted to WB model holdens and they had HEI distributors fitted also.

Cheers Rod

Note that the est sensor was only one of the inputs required to make the 3.3 black motor run. The distributor is easily identified by removing the cap and looking inside. All thats in there is a rotor.

Originally Posted by 67hardtop

Hi Lionel,
The holden HEI electronic distributors, (HEI stands for High Energy Ignition), were fitted as standard to all holden blue motors from VC commodore up to VH and VK black in the 6 cylinders with the exception of the 3.3 black VK NON efi auto, and the 4 cyl starfire. The 6 cyl black was fitted with an electronic system called an EST or Electronic Spark Timing, controlled by a computer and an EST sensor that was triggered by magnets affixed to the torque converter on automatics. Just as a note, several of the EST sensors used to get broken because they were forgotten about when engines or transmissions were removed as they were fixed to the back of the engine block and passed through a hole in the bell housing. The EST drive plate was also fitted with a dowel pin so that the standard drive plates could not be fitted by mistake. The manual VK commodore 6 cyl was fitted with the HEI electronic distributor as was the EFI 3.3 black motor. The Blue motors were also fitted to WB model holdens and they had HEI distributors fitted also.

Cheers Rod

Note that the est sensor was only one of the inputs required to make the 3.3 black motor run. The distributor is easily identified by removing the cap and looking inside. All thats in there is a rotor.

See? I said don't quote me. The knowledge base here is awesome.

Though, there is nothing wrong with the old points dizzy, i had a modified single points dizzy in my old hr, this thing used to rev to 8000rpm! (7500rpm with the exhaust on)
As for the carbies, i always binned mine and put holleys or tripples on, but i do remember a very mild 179 i had which had a carb off the last of the red motors (wb ute may be) and it worked surprisingly well compared to early carbies

Originally Posted by Vern

Though, there is nothing wrong with the old points dizzy, i had a modified single points dizzy in my old hr, this thing used to rev to 8000rpm! (7500rpm with the exhaust on)
As for the carbies, i always binned mine and put holleys or tripples on, but i do remember a very mild 179 i had which had a carb off the last of the red motors (wb ute may be) and it worked surprisingly well compared to early carbies

Memories , bought a hr with 179 unreg and drove it home at 16 with no exhaust just the x2 headers

Originally Posted by loanrangie

Memories , bought a hr with 179 unreg and drove it home at 16 with no exhaust just the x2 headers

Fitted a set of dual outlet extractors to an FC, only to find they made the car incapable of turning ( I think, long time ago ) left. Why I was fitting extractors to a grey motor escapes me just now.