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    The chasis cross member just behind the gearbox appears to be a replacement. Every SII and SIIA 88" that I have seen has a "two pressed halves" cross member, with the rest of the chasis being plate welded. This cross member appears to be rolled. There appears to be no seam on the two top edges. Or would this indicate a SIII chasis?

    Aaron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Tim

    They look like very straight ute cab roofs in the background!

    Pity you are so far away, I may have popped around and "half-inched" one for my Series IIB!

    Diana

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Yes the OEM workshop and parts manuals have the numbers.

    Or

    Classic Land Rovers

    You may have to use the assembly in the field for the VIN if it doesn't accept it add any letter a, b, c, d, e, up to h after the number to see if it recognises.

    Diana
    I've always used this VIN analyser CalVIN. It might give more or different info than the Classic Land Rovers one. Worth a try perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveMyV8County View Post
    I've always used this VIN analyser CalVIN. It might give more or different info than the Classic Land Rovers one. Worth a try perhaps.
    I've used CalVIN for chassis numbers in the past, I didn't realise you could pop in any part number you had!

    From CalVIN;

    Engine = SII LWB 1959
    Gearbox = SI SWB 1958
    Front Axle = SIII SWB 1972-79
    Rear Axle = SIII SWB 1972-79

    So my main question is whether this is a SII or SIII SWB chassis, then I can decide if I'm rebuilding a SII or SIII!

    I have attached a pic of the rear cross member, but I'm still not clear on what exactly is the difference between a SII and SIII SWB chassis?
    Last edited by TeZZaP; 11th June 2012 at 08:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Tim

    They look like very straight ute cab roofs in the background!

    Pity you are so far away, I may have popped around and "half-inched" one for my Series IIB!

    Diana
    If you was closer I might even let you... I'm not sure yet if I'm going to use either of them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveMyV8County View Post
    I've always used this VIN analyser CalVIN. It might give more or different info than the Classic Land Rovers one. Worth a try perhaps.
    The reason that I use Classic Land Rovers rather than Clifton - CalVIN (and have used both) is that CalVIN is not accurate for the suffix letters of Series IIB, and they also don't recognise late 1950 models without the prefix letters, knowing that CalVIN isn't accurate with those factors I don't fully trust it.

    Diana

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    I can't see that anyone has picked up on this... On the crossmember behind the gearbox are two upright brackets with two holes each. These are for the seatbelt mounts, and are AFAIK specific to Series 3s.
    Series 3 109" chassis longitudinals are built from the two C-sections, unlike Series 1-2as. Also AFAIK, Series 3 88"s use the old type construction (an '83 model I once wrecked was like this). The engine and gearbox are from a far earlier vehicle (gearbox has a dipstick!, engine has a Solex carb). SWB Series 3 chassis numbers begin with a 9, 2a's with a 2, 1s and 2s with a 1.
    Hope this helps.

    Dan.
    69 2a 88" pet4, 74 3 109" pet4, 68 2b FC pet6.

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    G'day TeZZaP

    Well I have looked at the pics time and time again and I would agree with Dandylandyman, that it is a Series 3 chassis or very late 2a (the seatbelt mounts and the angled bracket from the front firewall outrigger to the chassis rail, for the mandatory front mudflaps, that would make it post 1968/9, but the engine and transmission is definately an early 2.25 litre fitted with a Solex Carb (1959-1967) and the gearbox has the dipstick (which was gone by1960). So I would say that it is a late SWB 2a or 3 fitted with a Series 2 motor and box, the transfer case hex head filler plug also indicates that it is an early transmission, these along with the dipstick were Series 2, & 2a up to Suffix "A" the axles would possibly be marked 141*******(letter) front & rear cases,(Ser2) or 241**** (Ser2a) if the front is from a LWB it will be 151 or 251, if they are from a Series 3 they will start with 9*********, there is no listing in my Master Parts Book as to year models just references as when parts were changed and at what axle number (IE from axle 141/151******)

    Hope that is of help

    cheers

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