Thread: Tyre Choices: Bar Treads versus Hi-Milers

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Xtra Grip HiMilers


Juddy was going to import some 7.50 16 bar tread in the next couple of months. But neither bar treads ot Xtra grip are good on wet roads.

Have you considered 7.50 16 Michelin XZL? It is current spec for Au Army tyres.You can fit up to 7.00 16 on 5" rims. This is 185/100 R16 equivalent.

XZL are made in 7.00 R16 but I have no idea if they are brought into Au. Perhaps Juddy would add them to his container coming from the UK for you.

We are importing tyres to order for anyone who's Interested later this year.

Most tyres sizes are available.

750 x 16

700 x 16

600 x 16



900 x 16 Petlas NT3





The XZL's are a fantastic tyre and I have them on the 130, but RRP here is $400 plus each, so very expensive, so if only using for displays etc, maybe not the best option.

I made the mistake of buying some of those 750-16 that are a chinese Jeep Service lookalike, (LingLong LL62) only found out they were 14ply once they arrived , put them on a BJ42 (luckily it had split rims) even with all the air out the sidewalls didnt bulge ! Most horrible tyre I ever had, they developed flat spots from sitting overnight & took 15 minutes driving to become round again.

re Bar Treads

would not go any higher than 8 ply on a LWB, 6 ply on SWB.

never had any issues with bar treads on side slopes, they are the greatest in mud as they are self cleaning, as you spin the wheels the mud just squegees out the sides. Dry bituimen no probs, just be very cautious on wet bitumen,.

best used on a soft top as you will be less likely to be out in the wet.

Originally Posted by juddy

We are importing tyres to order for anyone who's Interested later this year.




The XZL's are a fantastic tyre and I have them on the 130, but RRP here is $400 plus each, so very expensive, so if only using for displays etc, maybe not the best option.

900-16 still not a bad price for a 35" tyre.
Are you importing these as well?

Originally Posted by goingbush

I made the mistake of buying some of those 750-16 that are a chinese Jeep Service lookalike, (LingLong LL62) only found out they were 14ply once they arrived , put them on a BJ42 (luckily it had split rims) even with all the air out the sidewalls didnt bulge ! Most horrible tyre I ever had, they developed flat spots from sitting overnight & took 15 minutes driving to become round again.
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What happened to the tyres?

I have an Army dog trailer that 14 ply tyres would be ideal.

The 700 and 750 we have are the same pattern as the goodyear ones,

I dont believe they are like the Chinese ones you mentioned.

Gawd strewth you lot! I had a seemingly simple choice of two, now bloated out to multiple suppliers and multiple sizes and lots of good advice in the middle! Bar treads seem to be in front from the original options.

I am a little light on for funds as have to pay rego and all its associated bills this month too. $186 for a tyre is affordable, <$120 for the jeep service/Hi Milers army take-offs more so, plus tubes. $400 for XZLs not so affordable, though I have had some through my mits over the years and do like them.

And then I see Wayne's mind ticking over about getting a Series and turning it into a one-tonner-alike with 9.00x16s, I don't think elderly axles would like that, though the Jac Mac in the back would relish the challenge.

Juddy I am afraid I want the tyres before the end of the month, for the annual Series Landy weekend with the LROCS at Paxina. The current tyres are apparently truck steer tyres and have no useful grip on loose surfaces, and I can't let the Series Ones have all the fun on our new hill climbing track!

Having heard Shonky's Ambrose on Hi-Milers I know they'll be noisy, but as noisy or noisier than bar treads? Hmmmm.....I reckon they'll be quieter than the Petlas NT3s!

Keep the advice coming please

Originally Posted by LowRanger

900-16 still not a bad price for a 35" tyre.
Are you importing these as well?

Yep 900 x16s as well just finalising complete pricing with tax, duty shipping etc, but it should be around 425/450 mark. each

Bar treads are fantastic in western black clay mud, Horrible on bitumen and lethal if you have any sandy crossings or beach work! We used to call them 'Wombats" in sand, a little too much acceleration or wheel spin and they dug themselves out of sight along with the vehicle attached thereto! And 750's are the go unless its on a S1

Cheers Scott