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    Who has Painted and who has Paid?

    So I'm still unsure how to tackle the respray on my SIIa, do i attempt to paint myself with the limited space I have or do I pay someone to do it for me?

    What has everyone else done who has gone down the restoration path? and who have you gotten to do it? (I'm melbourne based)

    Note: I am going back to a standard color, it has been resprayed poorly in a slightly darker green

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    Remember a Land Rover is a series of panels bolted together so you can paint as you go. The biggest items would be the tub & roof.

    Professional painting will potentially look better than new but at what cost ? Do you end up overcapitalising ? Do you want it to look better than it came off the showroom floor ?
    In the UK a lot of people brush/roller paint Land Rovers. With the right type of paint and some practice the finish can be better than you'd think.
    You could build a timber structure in the garden, cover it with clear plastic and make a temporary spray booth.

    Is it going to be a working vehicle or a trailer queen ?

    Personally I've spray painted outside and it's OK for what I need. With more time & practice I could do a better job. I have a roof to paint soon and again this will be done outside.

    Best of luck.


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    Yep, I've seen hand painted (with a brush) series vehicles that look very good and it certainly fits with the theme of the vehicle.

    Personally, I will be painting my Sons myself when the time comes, but I've sprayed a few cars before. I have already seriously over capitalized on the resto, so spending another $1,000 on paint won't be the end of the world. That thousand is what you will spend on materials alone if you do the job to a professional standard yourself, but with cheaper paint bought from an Auto store, you could half that. If you get someone to do it for you, depending on how much prep you do, and to what quality, expect to pay anywhere from $3 to $7K depending on what you want.

    As mentioned, you can do the bits as you go and you don't need too much room. Buy some drop sheets and hang them from the roof of your garage or where you are working and just cover a corner of the garage up as an impromptu spray booth so you don't get overspray on everything. Just a few square metres will be big enough to paint most things.

    Painting is the easy bit - preparation is the key and takes 99% of the time required to paint a car. You will need a decent compressor as well - under around 12CFM will struggle, and use a good quality water trap. Cheap Bunnings specials won't supply the air required to get a decent paint job.

    If you've never painted a car before, but have always wanted to, this is the perfect place to start - go on, give it a go yourself - the satisfaction of doing your own paint is enormous.
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    What the others have said. We do all our own painting and others as well, but that's us, PREPARTION is the key, a poorly prepped panel will show once painted. I saw a old county that was brushed painted the other day and it certainly looked good, added to the character of the vehicle.

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    Painting at home

    Quote Originally Posted by chaybra View Post
    So I'm still unsure how to tackle the respray on my SIIa, do i attempt to paint myself with the limited space I have or do I pay someone to do it for me?

    What has everyone else done who has gone down the restoration path? and who have you gotten to do it? (I'm melbourne based)

    Note: I am going back to a standard color, it has been resprayed poorly in a slightly darker green


    I have completely spray painted 3 LR vehicles at home.
    2 were flat (olive drab) and the other is gloss yellow.
    If you have a decent compressor (you need sustained volume) and gun there is no reason you can't do it yourself.
    I find that it is extremely rewarding looking at the finished product you have done yourself.
    The trick with painting is the preparation. The better that is the better the end result. what's the saying? you shouldn't put lipstick on a pig?
    You just have to be patient and only spray on a still, warm day.
    Works for me.
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    I've only ever done a guard and a window top (roller & spray can) - it was my first attempt , I did it in the middle of a cold wet Winter - and both looked rubbish, but improved a bit after a rub down with a light wet and dry.
    Why not try a small part and see how you go?
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    Another Possibility

    Hello

    You can do a search on Gumtree for "Spray Booth" under the Category "Automotive" for local spray painters that actually hire out time in their spray booth. For example, one rate in Queensland was $100 for 8 hours during weekdays.

    There may be a local spray painter that may offer a similar service? Never know until you look/ask

    Kind Regards
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    What Bacicat Philb and Lionelg said.
    Personally I think any "restoration" using a roller or brush that wasn't that way from the factory is disgusting and am still to see anything that is even passable closer than 20 meters.

    If you decide to spray at home be careful of your neighbors. Some councils can get very unhappy with home spraying.

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    YouTube How To

    Hello Chaybra,

    There are also some good YouTube videos about spray painting. There are a couple by Kevin Tetz, who is from the Eastwood Company based in the US of A. Plus there is an Australian based spray painter called the "Gunman".

    I have no association to either the Eastwood Company or the "Gunman". The Eastwood videos are of course very Eastwood-centric "buy our product". However, it starts off as a very clear How to Spray Paint 101 course, of at least two parts. Kevin Tetz is a professional trainer who also likes to talk. While the Gunman is very much a practicing trades-person.

    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_9WQmicyJU[/ame]
    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coZ6NA-KJdo[/ame]
    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvRbuaf5Tuk[/ame]
    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj4hYMsv96E&feature=iv&src_vid=MvRbuaf5Tuk &annotation_id=annotation_936685457[/ame]

    The Gunman runs through the techniques of spray painting though not at the "101" level.

    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH9QRSTeRN4[/ame]

    Beware all that "spare time" you had will soon disappear as you start to watch spray painting videos.

    Kind Regards
    Lionel

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    I'm itching to paint another car .... no time and even less money though. This is how I used to paint cars.... Acrylic lacquer and spraying anywhere 'cos you can just colour sand and finish any crap in the paint out.

    Quick paint job anyone ????

    The problem is the old Dulon doesn't last for ****. bird **** and tree sap stains and lifts it .... it disintegrates if left in the weather (especially in red).

    This is the last effort I did .... Using activated paints is a revelation where finish and durability is required. It'll also poison you in record time unless you invest in an air fed mask.

    Xantia clearcoat restoration advice please.

    this is how I painted the last one .... home made booth made out of builders plastic. You know this would be really effective with a series vehicle. Like a Citroen DS you can pull each panel off and spray individually. The biggest panels will be the bonnet and roof.

    This is what you need:
    --lots of spare time
    --the right attitude
    --Having the right attitude and not giving in will help ...
    --Having the right attitude and re-doing stuff over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over until it's right is the only way to get a good finish.
    --If you have the attitude bit down .... belt drive compressors > 12CFM these days are cheap, spray guns are cheap (you'll sand any finish level anyway, so exotic expensive brand name guns aren't required). Lots of sandpaper. budget for how much you think you'll need, then multiply the amount by 10. Get yourself a speed file and lots of bog .... you'll use ****loads of bondo on aluminium body panels as I wouldn't suggest trying to "work" them otherwise you'll just work harden the panel.

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    Proper cars--
    '92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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