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    Quote Originally Posted by Landy Smurf View Post
    the reason I am wanting to know what year the engine came out of is I was hoping it would be the same engine that would have been in my 1953 80' but this engine came out of an 86'(year unknown) what ways besides the engine number can you tell the difference between the 2 engines?
    The 1953 80" and the 1954 86" had identical siamese bore 2 litre engines. later 86" has spread bore 2 litre engines.

    The easy way to tell, is there a paper element (full flow) oil filter canister below the carby (RHS of the engine), if yes that is a spread bore engine. Otherwise get the engine number, it is on the exhaust manifold face at the front LHS of the engine.

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    Should this thread be in the Land Rover History section?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Should this thread be in the Land Rover History section?
    I would say no, because it is the history of individual vehicles. Not Land Rover History or interesting history of particular Land Rovers, but I have moved the thread out of Series 1 into the Series Landy root pinnacle.

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    thanks for this. My 57 series 1 had "sent to Regent Motors, Melbourne June 57" on its details when I enquired at Gaydon. I asked someone what this meant and they said they (RM) were the wholesalers , PMC would have put it together. So its interesting to know that Regents actually put them together.
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    Hi Diana,

    I was hoping you could also help me out with my 1971 sIIa station wagon!

    I have heard it could be ex police of forestry. Have asked around local clubs etc and no recognition from long time landy owners of the vehicle.

    Vin: 35200879G

    some notes from previous owner;

    body type: 837, series 109837

    chassis # 241-354

    Cheers,

    Nick

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    Firstly it is not a 1971 SIIa Station Wagon. It is actually a 1970 station wagon, which was probably built in February 1970.

    The vehicle was allocated to British Leyland, so if the vehicle has a 1971 compliance plate it was affixed when Leyland disposed of it later.

    The unusual thing about this vehicle and #878G (also to British Leyland) is that neither are listed with an engine number. (I've not seen that in the books before)

    I have no evidence in relation to your vehicle but in the 1970's time Leyland were playing around with different engines. On the other hand, it could be a simple matter that Leyland took the vehicle off the end of the assembly line before the folks at Grenville's had time to record the engine and key numbers.

    The chassis should match the car number, so I have no idea what the "241-354" relates to, unless it was a prototype number, however these were usually in a sequence like "109/3"

    I think the other details "body type: 837, series 109837" are numbers issued by registration authorities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark61 View Post
    thanks for this. My 57 series 1 had "sent to Regent Motors, Melbourne June 57" on its details when I enquired at Gaydon. I asked someone what this meant and they said they (RM) were the wholesalers , PMC would have put it together. So its interesting to know that Regents actually put them together.
    cheers,
    D
    I met a gentleman a few years ago that worked at Regents welding the chassis together.
    The chassis' were apparently sent over as side rails, crossmembers & outriggers. They sourced the outriggers locally at some point to increase the 'local' content.

    I was given a box of rivets, he must have had a few in his pocket as he left every day......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark61 View Post
    thanks for this. My 57 series 1 had "sent to Regent Motors, Melbourne June 57" on its details when I enquired at Gaydon. I asked someone what this meant and they said they (RM) were the wholesalers , PMC would have put it together. So its interesting to know that Regents actually put them together.
    cheers,
    D
    Out of interest, is your 1957 a 1137 prefix or a 1127 prefix?

    The reason is that many of the master distributors* (official title) were still getting UK built Export models after the PMC factory was in operation. This is particularly true of Annand and Thompson in Qld who preferred something built in the UK rather than something built by mexicans, it is probably why we had the "Brisbane tops" made by Athol Hedges to meet the Australian content rules for a vehicle built in the UK.

    This continued into SII and SIIA (& SII to make up for production shortages and special orders like 88" station wagons which were not usually assembled in Ox until the SIII Game.

    * Wholesaler isn't quite correct in this context, because Regent's were a retail dealer as well as wholesaling to other local dealers around Vic and Tas. hence the title "master distributor".

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    All very interesting. Mines a 1137 - 113701494. What's the difference between the two ?


    When I first started to research the numbers - I found a website that appeared to suggest it was built in UK which seemed odd at the time as I thought nearly all the Land Rovers out here were CKD. But whatever site I found that mentioned that - I have forgotten the address. Gaydon say CKD.


    cheers,
    D
    1957 88 Petrol (Chumlee)
    1960 88 Petrol (Darwin)
    1975 88 Diesel (Mutley)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark61 View Post
    All very interesting. Mines a 1137 - 113701494. What's the difference between the two ?


    When I first started to research the numbers - I found a website that appeared to suggest it was built in UK which seemed odd at the time as I thought nearly all the Land Rovers out here were CKD. But whatever site I found that mentioned that - I have forgotten the address. Gaydon say CKD.


    cheers,
    D
    the 112 is the prefix for "88 RHD export" (111 88 RHD home) and 113 "88 RHD CKD" the "7" is the year digit.

    113 means it is assembled in Oz (or somewhere else, but not UK) however 1957 is quite late not to have been assembled at PMC when they were assembling in 1956 at PMC.

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