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    Rebuild D1 or Purchase D2

    Hi every One this has probable been asked before but I am trying to decide if I should rebuild my TDI d1 or Purchase a good condition D2 and do a few simple Mods. My thoughts at this stage are as follows.
    My D1
    Have Gearbox & Trf case rebuilt (sincro on second has been playing up for 100000km),Clutch while out. New Disc rotors and pads and while there wheel bearinngs. Check all bushes and other drive components and replace as required.
    New springs 2"lift, shocks. Make and fit Rock sliders.
    Possible ARB airlocker.(Motor is fine and local LR dealer has stated she is a good motor should do 400000km no probs (regular services and belt changes log booked)
    Currently has 265000. No electrical or other problems since purchased over 8 years ago.
    Op 2/
    D2 Td5 5 speed manual (I Like manuals for how I use the vehicle and have had Auto rovers)
    Find 2003-4 coil sprung TD5 Manual app 100000km, fit 2" lift coils and shocks and when required change Tyres to off road style and largest legal size in QLD. and then test and see what needs to be done.
    Concerns TD5 reliability and problems eg/ Three amigos, head gaskets,turbo, and all electrical gremlins that are talked about with car losing power ect and any other issues that happen with the TD5. I have not had any problems other then age and KM with my TDI so and at a lost as this is the longest i have ever kept a car and am finding it hard to change. .

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    You've probably spent more than the D1 would bring,,

    why sell?

    its a known quantity,, upgrade it as required!

    some people upgrade to a D2 and not enjoy it,,

    The D2 is a more service intense model,,,(was that nice?)

    The D1 is still an awesome machine on and off road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    You've probably spent more than the D1 would bring,,

    why sell?

    its a known quantity,, upgrade it as required!

    some people upgrade to a D2 and not enjoy it,,

    The D2 is a more service intense model,,,(was that nice?)

    The D1 is still an awesome machine on and off road.
    X 2

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    I would stick with your D1. You know the car inside out, its been reliable and good to you.
    Do the mods you're planning and you'll have a Disco that'll last you for many more years to come not to mention a bit of an off road beasty!
    I recently went back to owning Disco after 3 years of 'non Disco'.
    I had a good chance of picking up a good 2000 D2 V8i at a very good price, but you know, I ended up getting a low K '96 V8i and I am VERY VERY happy with it.

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    I disagree,
    Scrap the D1, strip it down and sell the parts on eBay.

    I'm after the Cruise Control brain and some side steps.

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    I went through this a while ago.

    Disco Had 240k on the clock, everything was a known quantity, wanted to keep, but our needs had changed. In the end I got my long wanted P38, but if not for a few other constraints would've got a D2.

    Depends what you need in the car?

    If as an OffRoad tourer i would probably stick with the D1. I loved the fact that you could start a tdi in the middle of knowhere, even if all the elec's are fried.

    If you need more space the D2 would be the go. But I can't really quantify the D2 as i've never had one. I would expect it to be a bit quieter on the road too, but as already said more maintenance intensive.

    Stu

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    Quote Originally Posted by black betty View Post
    I disagree,
    Scrap the D1, strip it down and sell the parts on eBay.

    I'm after the Cruise Control brain and some side steps.
    have a look on eBay for LR cruise control ECU, I know of one ex UK

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    At the end of the day you will still have an old 4WD that has a lot of km's on it. Yeah ok, the luddite love them, but there is a better best out there when you step into a D2. LR dont spend a lot of time and money redesigning something to not be better than the previous product and it would be stupid for anybody to insinuate that. WE still dont really hear about rusting D2's in Australia either, unlike the D1's.

    WRT probs...

    The TD5 is reliable. I think you will find that despite what you read on here that they are a very reliable engine and that engine breakdowns are usually from a previous problem. They also have been designed to last significantly longer than the Tdi and there is no reason out there to not believe this.

    3 amigos... just run pads that dont produce noise. eg OE or EBC and the 3 amigos wont be an issue.

    Turbos dont really give problems. Its very rare to damage one and I would expect no more susceptable than any other turbo out there. They are a good Garrett unit.

    Head gaskets are the result of an overheating. Fit a coolant level alarm and its not an issue after this. This is probably no different to any engine with an alloy head anyway.

    Electrical gremlins that lose power is the injector loom. These are like the TD5's version of the Tdi's timing belt. The difference is that it doesnt damage the engine if there is a problem unlike a failed timing belt, and you can still drive it home. Its not a big issue and properly serviced Discos will have this found before it becomes a problem anyway.

    Dont sweat about finding it hard to change, you will forget the D1 after stepping into a D2 and into a newer 4WD. A test drive will answer your questions.
    Cheers
    Slunnie


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    I'm not sure what I would do in your position. If it helps in your decision making process I bought a rebuilt motor/gearbox 200 Tdi 93 Disco 1.

    It's about to hit 500,000 k's and apart from a wheel wobble the guys on here helped me fix it's been brilliant. Very, very happy with her. Easy to work on, reliable and cheap to run (for a Disco).

    Good luck with your decision, it's for me a bit like the wife. The new models look good but I know and love my baby. The wife's ok as well.

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    Keep the trusty old D1.
    Do a "search" on D2 TD5 and you'll feel a lot better with what you have, and save a fortune.

    The newer the model the more expensive it gets to keep going.
    The D1 is plain, simple and mechanical.

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