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Thread: S.A.D.F Series 111 S

  1. #11
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    The best article I could find on the web about the IIIS is here: Series III S

    There are some inaccuracies in the article which I can clarify after studying it again.

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    Looks like an interesting vehicle Keith, I like the look of that engine bay What are your plans for it ??

    Maybe with that engine configuration it started out as a wagon

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPC View Post
    Hi Keith

    That last number is the Combined Vehicle Mass, thus includes the trailer, both fully loaded.
    JP
    Thanks for those photos. I was going to ask where the load plate should be when we open up the jerry can holders. That photo shows it well.
    A question on the wheels. This has 7" rims but on inspection they appear to have been cut and shut. The weld is visible. Is this a feature of the 111 S or another aftermarket mod?

    Keith

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryd View Post
    Looks like an interesting vehicle Keith, I like the look of that engine bay What are your plans for it ??

    Maybe with that engine configuration it started out as a wagon
    Hi Jerry. Its Johns to play with. I am not taking on anymore ATM.
    The SADF had them as a ute and a Station Wagon that they called a Bus.



    This has PU as a prefix whereas the Wagon (Bus) has BU.
    The R6 is the engine.

    Keith

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    The engine looks like the same one that made its way into our Austin Kimberleys, except they referred to it as the X6 engine.

    Cheers, Mick.
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    Keith that looks like a P76 6cyl motor , I am sure Leyland used them in South Africa. Motor was also used in Austin Tasman ( with single carby )& Kimbley ( with twin carby's) I see Killer got in before me about the X6 engine. In Australia they had over heating problems & head gasket problems. I see they changed a few of the problems with the motor's . The fuel pump was mounted on the cam cover on the Aus vehicles & the oil filter has been moved & got rid of the plastic air filter housing which allowed dust to get past the filter seals causing engine wear.
    Wayne

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    Thats it.
    That link that JPC put in post 11 explains a bit of it.

    K
    I read in another forum that many use Austin Princess head gaskets in this R6 engine now.
    Overheating seems to be a problem.

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    Thsese engines used the same shim adjustment system for the valves as Jaguar , you need a lot of bifferent size shims to adjust the valves. It was a time consuming job setting the valve clearances , you had to set the engine up check the gaps pull the cam out & measure the shims then select a shim to get the correct gap then reassemble the engine & check the gaps again if they wern't correct pull the cam out again & keep doing it untill you got the clearances correct. In Australia the Otto switch for the electric fan gave a lot of trouble & also thermostates failed often , they were ment when fully open a disc on the bottom would seal off the bypass but this did not always happen & the water would bypass the radiator causing over heating . I hace here a lot of service bullitans on P76's , I will have a look & see what other things they say about the engine.

  9. #19
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    My issues with the lr-mad article:

    The vehicle designation is Series IIIS.....not R6 as many plonkers here in SA (not South Australia!) still call them.
    My research of many years has not turned up a 2.25 petrol engined IIIS. A 2.25 will not fit on the Santana bell housing unless an adaptor is used and that would have meant extra production costs. None of the IIIS workshop or owner manuals indicate a 2.25 petrol engine either. The Series 3 with 5 bearing engines were still available after the introduction of the IIIS, but who in their right mind would buy the older model unless there was a huge price difference, which there wasn't. I was told that some dealers added the IIIS decals to the series III just to try and get rid of them.
    The last Series IIIS was sold in 1991, according to the Auto Digest, an authoritative vehicle data publication here at the time.

    Enough of that. The common overheating problem of the R6 engined Land Rovers was also prominent in the Austin Marina, but not at all in the Rover SD1, all running the same engine.

    Keith, about the rims. The Series IIIS had unique rims......6mm offset and 5.5 width as standard.

    The military version of the PUP had the spare wheel on the bonnet or in the back. When on the bonnet...the hole in the load box front was covered with a plate and the bracket hole in the tub-front was not there.



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    Thanks for the info JPC.
    Now whats the thing on the back wheel in that illustration. It looks like the front wheel step on a Forward Control. Is it a winch of some sort?

    Keith

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