Thread: 1954 Royal Review 47160049

[QUOTE=wrinklearthur;1797624]By pressing the cup out and turning it, that shares the wear around the cup.

Make sure you watch that the cones spring doesn't bind when you do the preload.
Do you need a good swivel pin outer (free) and if so which side as I have several spares for 86's?

I can E-Go it up there, if you want one quickly.

Thanks Arthur but I am OK for housings.
When I pushed the cup from the rusty ball I did not note which way it was in. So have to take pot luck which way it is in the replacement
I got some new springs from the mob in Melb. They are square section and far too stiff. It gets over 8lbs while still a 1/4" gap, and thats with a bunch of shims in the bottom too. So have gone back to the original springs as they still measure over the inch.

Hi Keith , I was thinking after talking with you on Tuesday , I recon at some time the rteering arm threads have pulled out of the origional hub & somebody has got hold of a 80" hub assembly & fited the lot. As I said when I was looking for hubs all hhe 80" hubs had striped or briken studs holding the arms. Had a good day up there with you Wayne

I got some new springs from the mob in Melb. They are square section and far too stiff. It gets over 8lbs while still a 1/4" gap, and that's with a bunch of shims in the bottom too. So have gone back to the original springs as they still measure over the inch.[/QUOTE]

Could it be that you're mixing parts? W.
L/r workshop manual 4291

Wally , you have some interesting Workshop Manuals. Confusing.
I am using TP165A First Edition Jan 1954.
It makes no mention of different springs but I will measure the pins later.
It says the resistance of the swivel pins should be 7 to 8 lbs.
I understood this to be the figure for the cone and spring swivel and the higher figure your book quotes is for the Railco.

Ok ,looking at parts books my Jan 52 lists the spring as 230869 up to 52
Parts book TP155E Part no 4107 June 56 lists only one spring 242742 for 86, 88 107, 109.

That 14 - 16 lbs is a high reading eh.
O well, sort it next week got to go to town tomorrow and shooting all weekend.

Keith

Had a quick look.
The length of the pin is 1.218" but not 25.5 mm. Its more like 31mm
Actually the length of the pin will not affect the preload. It would be altered if the length of the boss above the splines changed but it is the same for both. It just means the spline goes through the cone a bit more or less.

Agreed,but the thickness of the cone is different too between a 80" and the rest of the S1 s. Wouldn't that affect the spring?
I think the short pins were used so as not to interfere with the UJ. I notice they also machined the inside of the balls to accommodate the UJs on models 54-58. W.

If the cone was thicker it would. I have some cones from an 80" and they all look the same so may have been swapped at some time. Does your manual show the differences in the cone dimensions?
K

On the Tickford I have a slight leak from the lower swivel pin. It must come past the shims.
Here I am machining a groove for an O ring that should cure this.