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    Lost Tools

    Simple job .... Lets change the vacuum advance unit

    Suns going down in 3/4 of an hour

    No problems..... Loosen the dizzy so ya can turn it / unclip the dizzy cap and slip it to one side / rip out the screws / Drop the old unit / Put the new unit in and get it to capture the internal pin /

    All going just great

    OK now lets put the screws back in ... Oh look, it's not being a hassle ... Lets check that the advance unit works .... Suck on the tube, Mmmmm, could do with some position adjustment to get a better travel ... OK, Loosen the screws a bit / Move the vaky position a bit ... OH great, All going fabulous ..... Lets re-tighten those screws



    SLIP

    CLUNK

    Wheres that "driver bit" dropped to now???

    Under the Dizzy

    Nope

    Suns going down

    On top of the valley cover

    Nope

    Bring out the torch

    Under the hoses

    Nope

    Bring out the lights

    On top of the timing cover behind the water pump

    Nope

    Change batteries in torch

    Fell on the ground

    Nope


    RIGHT ... HAD ENOUGH .... LETS DON THE MAD HAT.......

    Number the plug leads
    Rip off the dizzy cap


    ...... could barely see it ... AND THERE SHE WAS






    THAT "Driver bit" (in my fingers) fell & got in between, and landed under the plastic cap and was resting at X marks the spot




    So I had to remove those red screws to retrieve it ......


    20 min-et job with 1 hour of frustrations ......

    Hope this little story amused you , just as it amused me ....

    Mike
    All good
    Last edited by mike 90 RR; 14th March 2010 at 08:45 AM. Reason: delete swearing

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    Mike I am unhappy that it happed but glad I am not the only person that stupid things like this happen too. Really really frustrating at times working on these Rangies and disco's.
    Its incredible how such a small simple task can turn into crap in an instant.
    Your story amused and humored me but I can empathize with you
    Brad who has a book of things like this.
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    wait till your doing something and you loose a tool into the engine. Im not sure whats worse....

    when you just glimpse it as it falls down an oil return gallery, you hear the sound of it tinking it its way into one of the inlets under the carbie plate on the valley cover.

    but my two favorite ones are the small hardened bit that could be anywhere, you dont want to start it till you find it juuust in case it went into the guts of the engine. then while your under it pulling the sump off just as you take the last nut off you drop it and it then rolls towards a tyre and under a tread block. you pull the sump out roll the vehicle back and then see the bit, right next to the nut you dropped, right where the tyre was.


    OR

    just as you finish putting the engine back into the IMV and you're loctited and tightened up all the mounting bolts, hooked everything up and you're just about to take all the tools out, you drop one, it bounces off the pack frame and you see it head down where you know there is no way of reaching by hand and you know theres no point trying to put the magnet in because the tool is a full size spanner and the magnets strong enough to pick up the spanner just stick themselves to the side of the hull.
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    i've done similar over the years. Worst one was probably doing a full belt and tensioner swap on my Integrale evo (cambelt, balancer shaft belts, etc) Had it pretty much all done and was puting the timing cover back on when one of the steel spacers that stopped it crushing when the bolts were done up fell down into the belts.

    had to remove the whole lot to get it out. added about 5 hours to my evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradtot View Post
    Brad who has a book of things like this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    wait till your doing something and you loose a tool into the engine

    when you just glimpse it as it falls down an oil return gallery, you hear the sound of it tinking on its way into one of the inlets .....
    Quote Originally Posted by Psimpson7 View Post
    had to remove the whole lot to get it out. added about 5 hours to my evening.
    I like the story of ....taking the sump off a old motor ... only to find a 1/2 spanner sitting in the bottom of the sump,
    that was left in there, some 200 thou k's ago by the previous mechanic

    BUT the real relevance to this story, being submitted to the "Technical section" ...
    ...... is that you have no choice , but to find where that tool ended up


    BTW .... This work was being done to my other ride (93 RRC 3.9V8) & is duel fuel (Gas) ....
    So whats a good "degree setting" of the (dizzy) timing ..... ???



    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike 90 RR View Post
    So whats a good "degree setting" of the (dizzy) timing ..... ???



    Mike
    Advance it till it pings under full load, then retard it a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Advance it till it pings under full load, then retard it a little
    One of my customers showed me a somewhat battered ball-pein hammer head. It was found inside a Road Ranger gearbox fitted to a then new MAN 8 x 4 body truck with refrig body. Apparently the drivers reported an occasional pinging or rattling noise from the box but the dealer could find nothing and the truck operated normally until one night when the driveline seized up with a hell of a bang and the truck skidded to a halt. The box was considerably damaged and the hammer head and a lot of chewed up wood chip was found inside when dismantled.
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    Or the v8 fairlane that came into the shop on the back of a truck
    and when motor was pulled apart had hose clamp embedded in piston
    It had new heater hoses on it about 3 weeks before.

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    Just finished torquing down the 33 head bolts (350ft./lb) on a 6 cyl 350HP Cummins engine when the boss walked in and asked what these 3 "O" rings were in the gasket set package, they were for sealing the head to the block where the fuel travelled from block to head. You could have cut tap washers off my arsehole while I was swinging on those head bolts, so now I had to undo the head bolts and remove the heads and the boss had to get a new head gasket kit, when I lifted the heads the 3 "O" rings were in place, like they were supposed to be. Just then the boss walked in with the new gasket set and said that the Cummins mechanic said that Cummins sometimes included extra "O" rings in case some were damaged or lost, NOT a good day at work, Regards Frank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike 90 RR View Post
    I like the story of ....taking the sump off a old motor ... only to find a 1/2 spanner sitting in the bottom of the sump,
    that was left in there, some 200 thou k's ago by the previous mechanic
    Just recently I pulled one rocker cover off my old man's rangie only to find a socket and extension bar sitting in there. It would have been in there a while.

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