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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    My facts are right,Shelby got chassis straight from the UK and modified them to suit.The later models had very little of the originals componants as the 427 as an example wouldn't fit but he didn't come up with the design or the original consept he just modded them to suit.To say that the GT40 or Cobra are American or they broke the sound barrier on there own is plain wrong. Pat
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    The GT40 was a british car from the start,a Lola design from start to finish and they stopped because the gearbox's couldn't handle the power,the re-engined American ones broke down quicker as they had more power.Carol Shelby hasn't done a thing as far as designing cars go,he just re-engined two british cars,the GT40 and AC Ace which he called the cobra. Pat

    there is a bit of a difference in what you are saying in these 2 posts......can I ask, are you British?

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    I was born at Gosford,2 hours north of Sydney so no I'm not British.I do like to give credit were credit is due though and that goes to Britain not America. Pat

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    so AC came up with the concept of a 2 door convertable sports car???

    when do you give him credit for coming up with the idea of putting a v8 into the Ac and what about the credit for the redesign for that change.....

    Carroll Shelby did achieve alot and contribute alot. there is no denying that

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    You've missed the point by a mile.The original question was the GT40 and Cobra are American cars,they aren't,there British.The GT was desgined and built for the Yanks by the British and Shelby wanted a sleek bodied car to make into a V8 roadster similar to a corvette and AC Ace had what he wanted.Ford payed a European company to build a vehicle to beat the Europeans,Shelby built a vehicle to meet a market they he rightly saw was there. Pat

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    Perceptional history isn’t it fun.
    You can brake the GT40 cars into 3 groups. The pommy built ones the yank built ones and the kiwi built ones.

    It was the pommy ones that broke and never won anything. The kiwi tub aluminum chassis that owes more to the lotus europa/ espri ( 007) / Colin Chapman folded bit of paper concept one, was the first ( small block) to win anything before Lemans, this car as I already posted was crushed by the yanks possibly to remove any claim that Lotus could cream off of there success.

    The Yank built cars, these are the 1-2-3 cars that made them famous. Yank built chassis, yank built motors and gearboxes, imported pommy body panels.

    In short, the GT40 was a yank car,

    Unlike the AC cobra which was a built car imported to America ( less motor and traz) to be fitted with the ford iron. As successful as the AC was. It was and is still a Dog of a car to drive. Epileptic spring’s front and rear didn’t help much. Hence the quick move to the super cobra which was much more successful on the track for it limited numbers.

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    good info there, and my point is that even if the AC was built in the UK, it was built to Carroll Shelby's designs mods... so yes he did more than just re engine a car....

    food for thought the whole thing may have had a different outcome if Chev had agreeded to supply the engines for the AC....but didnt, then the Ford option came up and the rest is history

    FWIW, the very first engine put in an AC from Ford/Shelby was a 221cid

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