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    Pump to fill gearbox and transfer

    Having just been out and covered myself in oil whilst attempting to change transfer and diff oils, I'd like some suggestions for a non-messy oil transfer option.
    I currently have one of the Toledo transfer syringe thingies - like a grease gun body that you use to suck oil out of the container, drip it all over yourself and the floor and eventually squirt the small amount remaining into the vehicle.
    THEY SUCK - but not in the way they are meant to

    Ideally I reckon something like a small gear pump would be great.
    I've also seen the pumps that screw onto the oil container. They look like a hand cleaner dispenser pump - but not sure how they would go for diff oil though.

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    I use 20L drums and just bought a nice drum pump, works a treat. It even works in 4 and 5L bottles if i dont have the cash to buy another 20L drum.

    I find buying in 20L drums a cheaper way to go, besides I am anal when it comes to servicing diffs, transfer case and transmission and probably do it alot more often than i should.

    But you can also get 5L pumps from auto part stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushie View Post
    Do yourself a favour and get a decent pump
    Macnaught Pty Ltd - oil transfer equipment | Macnaught Pty Ltd
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    Their hand operated suction guns are absolutely horrid and do not work as advertised - they are messy, do not suck up a lot of oil (supposedly 500ml but more like 100ml) and suck in a lot of air but the other models look the goods.

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    I had one of those useless syringe things- still got it somewhere but it never worked. I made myself a gearbox filler about 10 years ago that I have yet to see improved upon. No camera at present so i'll describe it as best I can-
    Take the screw top from one of your 5L gear oil containers, get a tubeless tyre valve and stem from a tyre dealer and about 3 foot of hose- any hose with around 10mm or so i.d. will do, mine has garden hose cos it's what was at hand at the time, never seen a need to replace it. Drill 2 holes in the container lid, one to take the hose- a tight fit is required- and one to take the tyre valve. Check a wheel rim to get the appropriate hole size for the valve stem. The holes have to be close together in the middle of the cap, so it can still screw onto a container. Fit the valve stem to one hole (valve end out), and push the hose through the other hole, far enough so that it reaches to the bottom of a 5l oil container. Job done and it cost you probably $1 if the tyre bloke charged you.
    Use an air compressor- or if you don't have a compressor, get a 12v tyre pump and you'll still spend less than you would on a drum pump. I put short bursts of air in, just so the container swells. Never burst one yet. If the container has one of those graduated strips down the side, you can even see how much oil is going into the gearbox.
    The POD no-fuss, no-pump, no-mess, gravity-defying gearbox, transfer and diff filler.

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    I use a 20 litre drum and hand pump, but recently bought a little 1 litre version. You fill it with desired oil and pump in. Small enough to take under the car with you. Got mine from BP distributor but I also saw them at Repco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by POD View Post
    I had one of those useless syringe things- still got it somewhere but it never worked. I made myself a gearbox filler about 10 years ago that I have yet to see improved upon. No camera at present so i'll describe it as best I can-
    Take the screw top from one of your 5L gear oil containers, get a tubeless tyre valve and stem from a tyre dealer and about 3 foot of hose- any hose with around 10mm or so i.d. will do, mine has garden hose cos it's what was at hand at the time, never seen a need to replace it. Drill 2 holes in the container lid, one to take the hose- a tight fit is required- and one to take the tyre valve. Check a wheel rim to get the appropriate hole size for the valve stem. The holes have to be close together in the middle of the cap, so it can still screw onto a container. Fit the valve stem to one hole (valve end out), and push the hose through the other hole, far enough so that it reaches to the bottom of a 5l oil container. Job done and it cost you probably $1 if the tyre bloke charged you.
    Use an air compressor- or if you don't have a compressor, get a 12v tyre pump and you'll still spend less than you would on a drum pump. I put short bursts of air in, just so the container swells. Never burst one yet. If the container has one of those graduated strips down the side, you can even see how much oil is going into the gearbox.
    The POD no-fuss, no-pump, no-mess, gravity-defying gearbox, transfer and diff filler.
    All good until you have a failure either LP or HP and I have seen both and dealt with the injuries. LP oil in eyes. HP oil in eyes, ingested, in skin injection and LAC from drum burst sharp edges. So be ware. It only takes a weak point or seem or a over pressure. Then there is the mess. Someone told me this a few years back, even think it was on this site and I tried it at very low pressure and the 5 litre container burst and I wore some oil and it made a mess, no injury, but I still detest the smell and taste of hypoid oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    I use a 20 litre drum and hand pump, but recently bought a little 1 litre version. You fill it with desired oil and pump in. Small enough to take under the car with you. Got mine from BP distributor but I also saw them at Repco.
    It's called a Tom Thumb Utility Pump. You can get these at Autobarn, Supercheap and most decent auto stores.

    Pro: They work and with very little mess or spillage. About $20.

    Con: Thank goodness that the viscosity of oil these days makes it easy to pump. I would hate having to pump 2 - 4 litres of thick treacle whilst on your back.

    Linky Tom Thumb Utility Pump - Autobarn - Tools & Equipment - DIY Tools
    Last edited by feral; 19th June 2010 at 09:01 AM. Reason: Linky bit added...full service today

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    I set up an airpump many years ago.
    Just get an out of date 4.5 Kg gas cylinder, tap the inlet for a car valve in the top gas fitting and drill a hole in the bottom to take a brass 90 degree hose fitting. Just undo the top brass gas fitting to fill with a funnel.

    The stand of the cylinder provides enough room for the fitting to clear the floor and drill a hole in the stand for the hose. The cylinder wall is thick enough for the thread to grab.
    I put a tap on the other end of the hose, and put a few PSI in and Bob's your relative.
    I chucked it away after I sold the 77 RRC as now its ATF for the transfer and ZF and the 1 litre sqeeze bottles work fine for the diffs.NO more filling LT95s.
    Regards Philip A

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    I had a 20l drum pump but ditched it in favour of a 5l pump up garden sprayer that cost about $25.

    Cut the wand off short and put a bend in so it would hang in the TC / diff filler holes. Has a lock on switch. Just fill with the right oil vol, pump up, hang in filler hole and lock on. Topping up to level is also way easier and less messy than a drum pump

    cheers, DL

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