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    4.6 engine questions

    Does anyone know what the optimum operating temperature of the 4.6 is?

    Also what is the thread size of the temp light sender attached to the thermostat housing on the 3.9 manifold?

    As the viscous clutch is seized on my disco I am going to fit the ford AU II electric fan assembly to it to see what difference it makes. If I dont like it I will simply buy another clutch and put it back to standard.

    Fitting the fan assembly is easy, what I intend to do is remove the warning light sender unit fit a tee in refit the warning light sensor and then fit the right heat range electric thermostat in the other side of the tee. use that to power a relay and Bobs your mothers brother.

    It should be pretty easy to make it look like that is how it comes from the factory. I will take photos and put it up as a project here

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    4.6 with Thor inlet or the common plenum chamber (trumpets)?

    The Discovery II has a 4.0 with coolant operating temperature at around 97-98 Deg C, and presumably the 4.6 version found in the P38A will be running at the same temp.

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    I would be running the 4.6 as cool as possible, 75 degree? If you can figure out a way to trick the ecu into thinking this temp is 20 degrees higher - you'll be sweet.

    High temps and alloy motors aren't a good thing.

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    Make a small hose tee (threaded 1/8 NPT with 5/16 nipples) to install into the bleeder line to the top tank of the radiator. Place it near the thermostat and you will read engine temp no probs. I would suggest an 80C thermostat is a good compromise between engine reliability and economy. 88 to 90C is best for economy, 75C is for brute force. My experiments indicate about 10% economy increase with every 10C rise in engine temp.

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    blitz wrote,...
    Does anyone know what the optimum operating temperature of the 4.6 is?
    Yes it very much depends on whether your engine is running carburettors or fuel injection.

    I run twin SU carburettors on mine with a 74 degree thermostat.

    Ron.

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    It's got the normal 3.9 inlet manifold on it and it is injected.

    I dont want to use an adjustable thermostat I would rather get one from a car that has electric fans and adapt it to fit. There are hundreds of them I just need the right thread size and I will go fromt here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blitz View Post
    It's got the normal 3.9 inlet manifold on it and it is injected.

    I dont want to use an adjustable thermostat I would rather get one from a car that has electric fans and adapt it to fit. There are hundreds of them I just need the right thread size and I will go fro mt here.
    A fan temp switch wont control the engine temperature (well not directly or properly).

    To find the correct temp for a fan controller setting - i'd find out the temp of the return water in the lower rad hose during a 40+kph cruise then add a few degrees. This way the fans wont turn on during normal driving, just as needed. I'm guessing 50 degree ish??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardchina View Post

    A fan temp switch wont control the engine temperature (well not directly or properly).

    To find the correct temp for a fan controller setting - i'd find out the temp of the return water in the lower rad hose during a 40+kph cruise then add a few degrees. This way the fans wont turn on during normal driving, just as needed. I'm guessing 50 degree ish??
    I'm just going to fit a set fan temperature sensor switch in the same place as fords do, as I am using a ford electric fan assembly, i figure if ford are happy doing it that way who am I to argue - I just wanted the optimum running temp

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    Being fuel injected, is not 88 degrees C the typical operating temperature for such engines?

    4.6 or 3.9, running the latter manifold and electronics would requre that the engine run at the temperature commensurate with that system,..would it not?

    So that would be the minimum temp to run the engine for the system to function correctly, so running within a window of say 88 to 92 degrees at all times for fuel economy and engine longevity.

    No point in going hotter than you need to.

    Ron.

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    Cool Ron that was what I was after. as the factory thermostat switches have set ranges I just need to fit the correct one at the engine thermostat adn it's all done - also I can make it look like a factory fit doing that way.

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