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Thread: County track rods and seals - **PICS**

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    County track rods and seals - **PICS**

    Ok fella's ...

    I posted on the Death Wobble thread a few days back and reported that I experienced this in isolation running the truck over one bit of uneven highway. The event happened in the exact same place, twice, but never happened anywhere else.

    I am not a mechanic and I have little experience but I am capable of tinkering on most things. I took a few pics of my track rods and seals and would like your opinions about whether they are knackered based on what you see. I get the impression a couple of the boots are split and ready for replacement - which is why I have had that death wobble.

    The truck has been 100% ok in every other instance but the second event was violent and not fun. Let me know based on the visual what you think.

    Thanks, Simon.










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    You need 2 people, one to rock the steering wheel side to side until tension, one to poke his head underneath and see where the play is coming from

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    Yeah mate ... tough at the moment as I am on me tot. I'd like opinions on the state of the boots though ... a couple look knackered to me.

    Simon.

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    A few of the boots are definitely sad, but that won't cause an issue by itself. Failed, split. torn boots will allow contaminents into the joints which will accelerate wear.

    As noted, you need to find out where any of that wear is, which is a two person job (the easy way).

    You also need to disconnect the steering rods to check your swivel preload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikirocker View Post
    Yeah mate ... tough at the moment as I am on me tot. I'd like opinions on the state of the boots though ... a couple look knackered to me.

    Simon.
    As mentioned, you need a few boots, which are only about $2 each.

    Nobody can tell you if the joints are OK or not from pics, you need two people for that.

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    Thanks gents ... twas the boots I really wanted opinions on. I understand the rest needs checking in greater detail.

    Cheers, Simon.

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    Grab the arm and see if there is any up and down movement, if it is excesive i would replace them

    TIM.

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    Might be an idea to check your panhard rod bushes while you're at it.

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    I'll need detailed instructions ... have no experience with checking swivel preload - none. How do I check swivel preload and the pan hard bushes - what do I do and what am I looking for?

    Cheers, Simon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikirocker View Post
    I'll need detailed instructions ... have no experience with checking swivel preload - none. How do I check swivel preload and the pan hard bushes - what do I do and what am I looking for?

    Cheers, Simon.
    You need a few tools and a mate, first a long strong screwdriver or tyre iron and get under and try to move the panhard rod bushes on each end of that long bar in front of the diff, if the rubber bushes are split or deformed and you can easily move the ends of the panhard bar around, then they need replacing, as the manual says "remove and relace worn parts and reinstall. You could also get a mate to rock and roll your vehicle sideways at the front and observe the bushes.
    My advice is go to your local Tool/Parts place and spend about $25 on a Kingchrome tie rod/ ball joint puller, not the tuning fork type that needs to belted with a hammer, but a proper tie rod end puller. Drop the 2 back tie rod ends and the front one on the passenger side, jack the vehicle up and remove both front wheels, put stands under chassis or diff housing. Now sit on a milk crate (whatever) opposite the front hub, you are able to rotate the hub and disc assembly forward and back (as in steering). The preload is the amount of force requires to turn the hub back and forward.
    Different models have different setups so I will describe mine, you have to remove the bolts holding the toplate/swivel pin to the top of the swivel ball housing, usually one of the bolts which goes through the disc brake hose bracket is very awkward to get at, persevere. Under this plate are a number of metal shims which raises or lowers the height of the top plate and swivel pin. Removing shims will increase the amount of force (preload) required to rotate the hub. If your hub flops around like my old fella you need to remove some shims to increase preload. You are supposed to use a scale attached to the steering arm on the hub to get the desired preload. I just remove shims till I get a noticeable tension when I turn the hub.
    When you have done that renew and replace all of your tie rod ends, put your wheels on and test drive, would also suggest that you purchase a Genuine Land Rover Workshop Manual, hope this helps, Regards Frank.

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