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    Detroit rear locker....am i crazy???

    Recently had truetrack fitted to front and detroit 'no spin' to rear on my old 130 fender.....LOVE the capability, BUT...!!!!!!

    Rear only works as a locker when I have centre diff engaged, which makes no sense to me. Why wouldn't it always engage, and how would the the centre diff lock make a scrap of difference on a detroit?

    I know im no rocket scientist, but this goes against all the logic I can muster in my small brain

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    Who told you it doesn't work all the time?
    The only truth in what you have been told is it won't work to its fullest if CDL isn't engaged as if the front loses traction, the drive will go to the front, not be split with the rear.

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    Er, didn't you read the manual?
    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzutoo-eh View Post
    Who told you it doesn't work all the time?
    The only truth in what you have been told is it won't work to its fullest if CDL isn't engaged as if the front loses traction, the drive will go to the front, not be split with the rear.
    A mate was following me up a steep climb that I was struggling with and told me that only one rear was turning. I don't see what CDL would do as the detroit is an independant unit that should lock up as soon as any spin occurs.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Er, didn't you read the manual?
    Regards Philip A
    Thats a change from 'google is you friend', i guess
    Have I read the manual cover to cover? no.
    Do i think I know the basics of how it functions? yes

    If it detects wheel spin, it automatically locks (this is the detroit no spin rear i'm talking about, not the true track front....the TT works more like a LSD and transfers power to the spinning wheel, yes?)

    What point do you think i am missing, Phil?

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    it shouldnt be much of a problem considering IMO the CDL should always be locked when offroad, but each to their own

    i plan on doing this swap one day also, so its interesting to know

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    Well your understanding of how it works.

    It is locked ALL THE TIME until it detects one wheel moving more slowly . It unlocks the wheel moving more slowly such as going through a corner when it unlocks the inner wheel.
    I you read teh manual you will see the manual gives many warnings because of this and this is why it will remain locked when both wheels are on a slippery surface, even if you want to turn.
    AND why the two tyres must be the same diameter and so on and so on.
    Regards Philip A
    BTW , I did have one for 10 years in my 77 RRC before they were fashionable. Only changed to a Maxi Drive because the maxi is more civilised in my 92 RRC.
    Last edited by PhilipA; 5th January 2011 at 08:36 AM. Reason: more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Well your understanding of how it works.

    It is locked ALL THE TIME until it detects one wheel moving more slowly . It unlocks the wheel moving more slowly such as going through a corner when it unlocks the inner wheel.
    I you read teh manual you will see the manual gives many warnings because of this and this is why it will remain locked when both wheels are on a slippery surface, even if you want to turn.
    AND why the two tyres must be the same diameter and so on and so on.
    Regards Philip A
    ....ok, thanks for straightening that up for me, but how does all of this relate to the CDL being in or out ?

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    ....oh, and 'fashionable' had nothing to do with it.....$500 per end was the incentive

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    Quote Originally Posted by moorey View Post
    A mate was following me up a steep climb that I was struggling with and told me that only one rear was turning. I don't see what CDL would do as the detroit is an independant unit that should lock up as soon as any spin occurs.....
    The Detroit can lock all it likes but without the CDL engaged there is no way ANY useful torque can be applied to the rear axle when the front axle is up in the air under very little load. With the CDL engaged the rear axle gets up to 100% of the torque when the front is spinning uselessly. Not having the CDL on for a steep hill is like breaking the front tailshaft!

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